vegan vegan What positive impact has your veganism had on friends and/or family? Have you changed anyone's mind about veganism?
Jump
  • "Initials" by "Florian Körner", licensed under "CC0 1.0". / Remix of the original. - Created with dicebear.comInitialsFlorian Körnerhttps://github.com/dicebear/dicebearWE
    weastie
    6 days ago 100%

    I haven't managed to "convert" anyone to veganism, but I have at least helped to dispell stereotypes and spread awareness. Most people's experience with vegans is just the extremely vocal and perhaps extremist ones you find online, calling everyone rapists and murderers. And look, I understand that there is some logic behind that, but if your goal is to try to bring more people towards veganism, you won't do it by insulting people.

    I've managed to convince most people that vegan food isn't gross. I offer people little bits of vegan food that I make or eat and they're often impressed.

    I've dispelled myths about imitation meat being really unhealthy (not arguing it's healthy, but some people act like it's the worst thing you can eat). You'd be surprised how many people think it's some lab made nasty chemical.

    I've dispelled a lot of myths (always respectfully, of course) about vegan nutrition. Most people aren't trying to be harmful, but they've heard a line or two online about how vegans can't build protein, can't get certain vitamins, etc.

    Mostly, I think by just being a respectful and amicable human being, I've shown people that you can be vegan and not make your whole life about it. Most people don't even know I'm vegan until we eat together and I have to explain it. I don't want veganism to be some kind of religion or cult you have to join, I want it to just be a normal thing that people choose to do for the animals.

    That being said, I do hope that I can eventually convince at least one person to become vegan, but I think trying too hard will just have the opposite effect. I'll continue to live by example and hoping people follow.

    9
  • asklemmy Ask Lemmy What opinions do you have that you consider (shallow && pedantic)?
    Jump
    vegan vegan Looking for breakfast ideas
    Jump
  • "Initials" by "Florian Körner", licensed under "CC0 1.0". / Remix of the original. - Created with dicebear.comInitialsFlorian Körnerhttps://github.com/dicebear/dicebearWE
    weastie
    3 months ago 100%

    Prenote

    Congrats on trying out veganism!

    First off, based on your message, I think you might have a couple misunderstandings about veganism. Understand that veganism isn't a diet nor is it inherently healthy. You can be vegan and eat processed food and imitation products all day long. Veganism is primarily an ethical stance - choosing not to partake in the industrial scale abuse and torture of our animal friends.

    I hate to say something that goes against my own beliefs, but I don't think it really makes sense to go fully vegan just for health reasons. Yes, virtually all nutritionists would say that people need to cut down and significantly reduce the amount of meat and animal products people eat, but for purely health reasons there aren't many reasons to go down to absolutely 0. Plus, although there are plenty of benefits to outweigh the negatives, it is important to recognize that vegans can have a slightly harder time getting some nutrients, like vitamin D, iron, zinc, omega 3 fatty acids (most people struggle with these nutrients anyway, it's just that vegans struggle a little more). And uniquely, there is virtually no vegan source of B12, so you need to take a supplement, or eat fortified foods.

    I'm saying this because people who go vegan only for health reasons almost always quit eventually. Do it for the animals, but also enjoy the health benefits that come along naturally.

    Don't make these mistakes

    Going vegan, especially suddenly, can take a toll on your body, just as making any sudden dietary change can.

    • Make sure you are eating enough. A lot of vegan food isn't as dense as animal products, usually because it contains a lot more water. The actual "volume" of food that you eat should increase quite a bit. Although I'm normally against it, I actually recommend calorie counting for a bit when you first go vegan (but do understand the dangers of calorie counting long term).
    • Understands symptoms of suddenly eating a lot of fiber: One of the healthiest aspects of veganism is the high intake of fiber, which is fantastic for your digestive system. However, most people eat way too little fiber, and the sudden change from little fiber to lots of fiber can actually be a bit uncomfortable: bloating, stomach pain, diarrhea. Long term healthy, but maybe short term take it slow.
    • Eat satiating foods: Vegetables and fruits are great for your health, but you have to eat foods that provide long term energy and make you feel full. If you are feeling hungry all the time, that's not good. The overarching categories here are grains (preferably whole), legumes (beans, lentils, tofu, fake meat), nuts, seeds.
    • Get your vitamins checked 3-6 months after going vegan: I just think this is too important after any dietary change.

    Onto your actual question

    The main breakfasts I eat are:

    • Granola or cereal and plant milk
    • Tofu scramble (can meal prep this easily) and toast, sometimes impossible breakfast sausage. To make good tofu scramble you need some unconventional ingredients you might not find at a grocery store, like black salt (kala namak)
    • Beans and toast
    • Leftovers from last night's dinner
    • Skip breakfast (or just eat a small fruit) and instead have a big lunch

    I will occasionally have toast with peanut butter and banana on it, but that's so calorie dense, I only eat it on days I know I'll be doing a lot of physical activities.

    This is actually a great breakfast. I understand your concern about it being calorie dense, but recognize that this is very satiating, and will keep you full and energized for a long time.

    Also, don't be afraid to eat some vegan imitation products. I promise they're not nearly as bad as people demonize them to be, just don't eat them all the time. I love impossible brand breakfast sausage, bratwurst, burgers, and chicken nuggets. In modern day, you can be vegan and still indulge in some tasty foods occasionally.

    11
  • gaming Gaming Dr Disrespect Admits To 'Inappropriate' Messages With Minor: 'I'm No Fucking Predator Or Pedophile'
    Jump
  • "Initials" by "Florian Körner", licensed under "CC0 1.0". / Remix of the original. - Created with dicebear.comInitialsFlorian Körnerhttps://github.com/dicebear/dicebearWE
    weastie
    3 months ago 80%

    I hate to get so semantical but using the word pedophile incorrectly just desensitizes the word. Pedophilia means being attracted to children, primarily meaning before or in the early stages of puberty, usually younger than 13. In fact, many pedophiles would not be attracted to someone aged 15+ because they are typically exclusively or primarily interested in prepubescent bodies.

    That doesn't mean this guy isn't a total asshole, but he's not a pedophile, and I think anyone can understand an adult sexting an older teen, while still absolutely horrid, is quite different from sexting a child.

    Once again, absolutely not defending this guy, I don't even know who he is... but I think it's important not to desensitize the word.

    30
  • asklemmy Asklemmy What is your favorite time of the year?
    Jump
  • "Initials" by "Florian Körner", licensed under "CC0 1.0". / Remix of the original. - Created with dicebear.comInitialsFlorian Körnerhttps://github.com/dicebear/dicebearWE
    weastie
    3 months ago 100%

    Summer. Especially at night. I feel like summer nights are always the perfect temperature, makes up for it being too hot in the day.

    5
  • vegan vegan Carnist logic… or lack thereof
    Jump
  • "Initials" by "Florian Körner", licensed under "CC0 1.0". / Remix of the original. - Created with dicebear.comInitialsFlorian Körnerhttps://github.com/dicebear/dicebearWE
    weastie
    4 months ago 66%

    Tumeric is used for coloring food a ton. Presentation of food matters way more than most people think.

    If you went to a halal restaurant and they served you white rice wouldn't that feel weird? I promise that the turmeric they add to the rice isn't making that significant of a flavor difference, it's mostly there for coloring.

    1
  • news News ABC News: DOJ releases proposed rule to reclassify marijuana
    Jump
    autism Autism Does anybody know where I can meet more autistic people like me?
    Jump
  • "Initials" by "Florian Körner", licensed under "CC0 1.0". / Remix of the original. - Created with dicebear.comInitialsFlorian Körnerhttps://github.com/dicebear/dicebearWE
    weastie
    4 months ago 83%

    I know this might sound strange but autistic people are roughly 3x more likely to be LGBT so you could consider going to an LGBT meetup. I'm neurodivergent and LGBT and that certainly matches my experience.

    4
  • funny Funny Hilarious or insane? You decide.
    Jump
  • "Initials" by "Florian Körner", licensed under "CC0 1.0". / Remix of the original. - Created with dicebear.comInitialsFlorian Körnerhttps://github.com/dicebear/dicebearWE
    weastie
    5 months ago 55%

    I am more than happy to be preachy about ending the suffering and abuse of literally billions of animals.

    Listen, I appreciate someone who is at least not hostile towards vegans, but I hate this whole "I respect what vegans eat, so they should respect what I eat". Sir, you are eating an animal that was most likely tortured and abused its entire life up until the point it was murdered

    1
  • funny Funny Hilarious or insane? You decide.
    Jump
  • "Initials" by "Florian Körner", licensed under "CC0 1.0". / Remix of the original. - Created with dicebear.comInitialsFlorian Körnerhttps://github.com/dicebear/dicebearWE
    weastie
    5 months ago 58%

    What if my dietary preference was cannibalism? Then would it be okay to shit on my dietary preference?

    Not eating animals isn't a dietary stance, it's an ethical stance.

    2
  • vegan vegan How would you rank vegan imitation products?
    Jump
  • "Initials" by "Florian Körner", licensed under "CC0 1.0". / Remix of the original. - Created with dicebear.comInitialsFlorian Körnerhttps://github.com/dicebear/dicebearWE
    weastie
    7 months ago 100%

    I believe it! I had two types and they were god awful, but I'd be willing to give it another shot

    2
  • vegan vegan How would you rank vegan imitation products?
    Jump
  • "Initials" by "Florian Körner", licensed under "CC0 1.0". / Remix of the original. - Created with dicebear.comInitialsFlorian Körnerhttps://github.com/dicebear/dicebearWE
    weastie
    7 months ago 100%

    That's funny about cream cheese, I have mostly heard complaints about vegan cream cheese. Maybe I haven't had the right brand yet but of the three types I tried I wasn't a big fan.

    3
  • vegan vegan How would you rank vegan imitation products?
    Jump
  • "Initials" by "Florian Körner", licensed under "CC0 1.0". / Remix of the original. - Created with dicebear.comInitialsFlorian Körnerhttps://github.com/dicebear/dicebearWE
    weastie
    7 months ago 100%

    Updated the list! My girlfriend has celiac's disease and those usually aren't gluten free so I don't have them often

    2
  • vegan vegan How would you rank vegan imitation products?
    Jump
    vegan
    vegan weastie 7 months ago 86%
    How would you rank vegan imitation products?

    *Pre-note: When I mention "imitation products", I mean a food item that is trying to exactly replicate a non vegan item. Something like a black bean burger is not an imitation production, it's just an alternative.* I was bored so I started creating a tier list of vegan products and how closely they imitate non vegan products. I was trying to keep the list genericized with less emphasis on specific brands, but for some items the brand was really important. What would you move around? What would you add? I only have a few items so far. I'll update the list as comments come in. --- ### S tier - practically indistinguishable * Beef burgers (impossible, beyond) * Breakfast sausages (impossible, beyond) * Chicken nuggets/patties * Mayo ### A tier - you can tell it's different but it's just as good * Queso dip (cashew based) * Ground beef (impossible, beyond) * Egg (just egg) * Butter * Milk * Ice cream ### B tier - you can tell it's different and it's a slight downgrade * Deli cheese slices (some brands are C or F) ### C tier - you can tell it's different and it's okay but a significant downgrade * Cream cheese (most brands) * Pizza ### F tier - you can tell it's different and it's not good * Beef jerky

    17
    21
    fuckcars
    Fuck Cars weastie 8 months ago 93%
    [discussion] Aren't parking garages a decent way to consolidate parking as densely as possible? Why the hate?

    First off, I want to point out that I am totally on team /c/fuckcars. I highly believe in transit, walking, and biking. That being said, I think it's fair to say that: 1. Cars aren't fully going away anytime soon 2. Even in our wildest dreams, it still makes sense for cars to be usable in some way, just that the other transport methods are highly prioritized. So the discussion I want to have is about parking garages, and the hate I see towards them from the urbanist community. I feel like parking garages vaguely align with urbanist views, because they are high density, and they allow someone to drive to a general area after which they can do the rest of their transportation via other methods. To put it into perspective, I'd rather have 1-3 dense parking garages in a neighborhood than have street parking along all the roads plus wide open parking lots around grocery stores and whatnot. I understand this is a lesser of the two evils discussion but it seems to me like parking garages are the clear winner.

    29
    22
    vegan vegan What popular vegan foods are you not a big fan of?
    Jump
  • "Initials" by "Florian Körner", licensed under "CC0 1.0". / Remix of the original. - Created with dicebear.comInitialsFlorian Körnerhttps://github.com/dicebear/dicebearWE
    weastie
    8 months ago 100%

    I feel like that's a common trend with vegan food. Take a delicious food item and overuse it until it's almost disgusting. I love hummus but I can imagine if I ate it all the time I would get sick of it. I'm like that a little bit with mushrooms, I love mushrooms but eating a ton of them makes them gross for me.

    I think something sorta unique about hummus that makes it really popular is that it's a vegan protein source that is served cold and can surprisingly substitute meat and cheese well. Like you mentioned about sandwiches, you can take out the deli meat and cheese and replace it with hummus and it still tastes delicious. Most vegan protein sources are cooked and served warm, or don't taste well with garden vegetables (like peanut butter).

    4
  • vegan vegan What popular vegan foods are you not a big fan of?
    Jump
  • "Initials" by "Florian Körner", licensed under "CC0 1.0". / Remix of the original. - Created with dicebear.comInitialsFlorian Körnerhttps://github.com/dicebear/dicebearWE
    weastie
    8 months ago 100%

    I think I'm very okay with admitting that I probably just haven't had good falafel yet. But I'll make more effort to do so based on everyone's comments!

    2
  • vegan vegan What popular vegan foods are you not a big fan of?
    Jump
  • "Initials" by "Florian Körner", licensed under "CC0 1.0". / Remix of the original. - Created with dicebear.comInitialsFlorian Körnerhttps://github.com/dicebear/dicebearWE
    weastie
    8 months ago 100%

    From a taste perspective, umami.

    From a health perspective, eating more protein is really good for satiety and therefore weight loss. Personally, when I don't go out of my way to incorporate extra protein sources, I usually just don't feel satisfied and full. I understand and recognize that you literally don't need a ton of extra protein to be healthy, but I feel best when I have it.

    7
  • vegan vegan What popular vegan foods are you not a big fan of?
    Jump
  • "Initials" by "Florian Körner", licensed under "CC0 1.0". / Remix of the original. - Created with dicebear.comInitialsFlorian Körnerhttps://github.com/dicebear/dicebearWE
    weastie
    8 months ago 86%

    Honestly, I in general don't really like when a meat is substituted for a food that is not a primarily protein source. Like replacing meat for cauliflower or jackfruit, as opposed to something with legumes or lentils

    11
  • vegan vegan What popular vegan foods are you not a big fan of?
    Jump
  • "Initials" by "Florian Körner", licensed under "CC0 1.0". / Remix of the original. - Created with dicebear.comInitialsFlorian Körnerhttps://github.com/dicebear/dicebearWE
    weastie
    8 months ago 75%

    I've never tried a durian but it's kind of tempting, bucket list item for sure. What do you hate about it?

    2
  • vegan vegan What popular vegan foods are you not a big fan of?
    Jump
  • "Initials" by "Florian Körner", licensed under "CC0 1.0". / Remix of the original. - Created with dicebear.comInitialsFlorian Körnerhttps://github.com/dicebear/dicebearWE
    weastie
    8 months ago 90%

    That's fair, as someone who went vegan recently I quite enjoy a couple meat substitutes. I imagine someone who's been vegan for a while doesn't care for them much though.

    I really like impossible ground beef and its derivatives (meatballs, burgers). This has been my main way of convincing my friends they could maybe go vegan, all but one of my really picky friends still enjoy these. But the vast majority of vegan imitation meats I don't care much for.

    8
  • vegan vegan What popular vegan foods are you not a big fan of?
    Jump
  • "Initials" by "Florian Körner", licensed under "CC0 1.0". / Remix of the original. - Created with dicebear.comInitialsFlorian Körnerhttps://github.com/dicebear/dicebearWE
    weastie
    8 months ago 83%

    I think there are a few spots where vegan cheese works.

    There's a couple simple parmesan cheese recipes that are pretty much just blended cashews, nooch, and seasonings that I enjoy on spaghetti. I'm sure it wouldn't fool anybody but it works like a charm for me.

    I also think you can make queso dips pretty well, the main ingredient usually being blended cashews or blended potatoes and carrots.

    Sorry for bringing up cashews again but you can also make a really good cashew ricotta that's a good spread on crackers.

    I tend not to enjoy the imitation cheeses. I prefer just going all in on the nuts and enjoying the final product as it's own unique item.

    4
  • vegan vegan What popular vegan foods are you not a big fan of?
    Jump
  • "Initials" by "Florian Körner", licensed under "CC0 1.0". / Remix of the original. - Created with dicebear.comInitialsFlorian Körnerhttps://github.com/dicebear/dicebearWE
    weastie
    8 months ago 60%

    I've never been all that fond of falafel. I feel like I would like it in theory but when I eat it it's just, meh.

    1
  • vegan
    vegan weastie 8 months ago 82%
    Didn't even think of this - watch out for animal based supplements in fortified foods

    I recently bought some multi grain cheerios (no honey in them) that I thought were vegan friendly. After finishing the box, I realized that they fortify it with vitamin D3, sourced from sheep wool. Shame because they seemed like a healthy, plant based source of whole grains.

    11
    2
    "Initials" by "Florian Körner", licensed under "CC0 1.0". / Remix of the original. - Created with dicebear.comInitialsFlorian Körnerhttps://github.com/dicebear/dicebearBA
    Bass weastie 9 months ago 100%
    Does anyone else get in this loop of wanting to add a bunch of cool effects to your bass, then eventually realizing it would be cooler to play a clean bass underneath those effects instead?

    Every now and then, I love playing around with tremolo, flange, envelope filter, fuzz, creating really cool synthy and ambient tones. And then I get to a sound I think is so cool, but then it just feels like... if I could have a second clean bass playing underneath those tones, it would sound awesome. Like realistically, 99% of the time, it just sounds better when all the fun synthy sound effects are coming from a keyboard or an electric guitar, and then you have a mostly clean bass playing underneath it all. And then I enter a loop of going back to clean bass, then I add just a smidge of effects, then I think those effects sound cool and increase them... you get the point. Does anyone else fall into this madness?

    7
    3
    guitars
    guitars weastie 9 months ago 100%
    Are isolated power supplies worth it?

    I somehow only just learned that daisy chaining all of your guitar pedals with the same power cable can cause extra noise. I don't have that many pedals right now which is probably why I didn't notice it. I recognize it's probably more important for recording than for live playback, but are isolated power supplies worth it? It's a hefty price to pay.

    27
    4
    asklemmy Asklemmy Whats your such opinion
    Jump
  • "Initials" by "Florian Körner", licensed under "CC0 1.0". / Remix of the original. - Created with dicebear.comInitialsFlorian Körnerhttps://github.com/dicebear/dicebearWE
    weastie
    10 months ago 66%

    Okay but there's a moral hierarchy when it comes to eating meat. Humans used to hunt, meaning we would kill animals that lived natural lives. Not to mention, we would typically target animals that were older or sickly, because we would have a harder time killing animals that are in their prime.

    That's so much different from modern day agriculture practices. We raise animals in fences so tight they can't turn their heads, and feed them nasty stuff. We abuse the shit out of them until they reach the point where we deem them the most profitable then we kill them. There's nothing natural about that.

    Also, it's really hard to know for sure, but we have a good amount of evidence that humans didn't eat that much meat. First of all, the animals we hunted wouldn't be nearly as fat as the animals we eat today. Secondly, there's evidence that many humans ate roughly 100g of fiber per day, which is not possible if you had any serious amount of meat. Humans ate a lot of plants. 100g of fiber is an insane amount of plants.

    1
  • asklemmy Asklemmy Whats your such opinion
    Jump
  • "Initials" by "Florian Körner", licensed under "CC0 1.0". / Remix of the original. - Created with dicebear.comInitialsFlorian Körnerhttps://github.com/dicebear/dicebearWE
    weastie
    10 months ago 100%

    Honestly I feel like the idea of "there is no ethical consumption under capitalism" is so lame. Like I understand that you could find something technically ethically wrong with everything, but that statement just feels like a way for people who don't want to give up certain things to justify themselves.

    Capitalism, especially modern day capitalism where the government and companies collaborate, does lead to a lot of ethical issues. And yes, I understand that it is not liveable to give up everything that is unethical. But you can still have boundaries.

    I mean like, buying oats and grains from a grocery store, which are typically grown domestically, compared to buying dead abused animals or bananas from a company that uses slave labor. Those are totally different things.

    If you prioritize buying things that are made in countries that have better labor laws, and avoid animal products, then that's a pretty damn good start.

    2
  • asklemmy Asklemmy Whats your such opinion
    Jump
  • "Initials" by "Florian Körner", licensed under "CC0 1.0". / Remix of the original. - Created with dicebear.comInitialsFlorian Körnerhttps://github.com/dicebear/dicebearWE
    weastie
    10 months ago 100%

    I mean, most vegans would still commend your effort to reduce animal product consumption.

    But from a moral standpoint, simply eating less animal products really doesn't have much value. Imagine using your argument for other moral dilemmas.

    "Racism is wrong, so I reduced the amount of racial slurs I use to only 1/3"
    "Rape is wrong, so I only rape on Mondays now" (in reference to meatless Mondays)

    I hate to be so militant about it, but you either think animal abuse is acceptable or you don't.

    Now, what I do think could be a moral standpoint, if you really want to still be able to eat meat, is to only eat "humane" meat. I put "humane" in quotes because even farmers with the best intentions are still killing animals young. I don't personally believe any animal product can be humane, but even then I can recognize that any animal that was raised on a pasture and ate real food is more ethical to eat than one in a factory.

    So if you genuinely only ate pasture raised beef and chicken (and you were sure about it), then I would say that is quite honorable.

    7
  • vegan
    vegan weastie 10 months ago 71%
    What would you have done? Takeout order had sour cream https://lemmy.world/post/8349660

    Hi /c/vegan, I just picked up tacos from some cheap Mexican place. They don't really do anything to cater to vegans but in the past, they basically just gave me extra rice and beans and removed any cheese, cream, or meat. Today I ordered and they put sour cream on it. I know that this place doesn't have a vegan sour cream, so it was a mistake. For a second I thought I wouldn't eat it, but I got in a moral debate in my head and decided that at this point, the damage is already done, and I tried my best to scrape off all the sour cream and ate the tacos. Obviously I still consumed a decent bit of sour cream which makes me sad, but I don't know, I couldn't see it being more moral to not eat it. And I don't want to call them back and harass some minimum wage workers about it either, since they've gotten it correct in the past. TL;DR: Cheap takeout had sour cream in it, would you scrape it off and still eat it? Throw it away? Demand a refund?

    6
    11
    vegan vegan Should Cats and Dogs go Vegan? - Professor Andrew Knight, University of Winchester
    Jump
  • "Initials" by "Florian Körner", licensed under "CC0 1.0". / Remix of the original. - Created with dicebear.comInitialsFlorian Körnerhttps://github.com/dicebear/dicebearWE
    weastie
    10 months ago 100%

    I wish this was true. I have some pet lizards I got before I went vegan, two of them are omnivores (blue tongue skink and Argentine black and white tegu). They can't be vegan. I mean, honestly, if there was a large scale effort to research it, I bet we could come up with a suitable vegan diet for them, but I don't think anyone will put a bunch of resources into that.

    2
  • vegan vegan The inability to recognize the highly nuanced cognitive differences between different animal species is slightly putting me off of "strict" veganism
    Jump
  • "Initials" by "Florian Körner", licensed under "CC0 1.0". / Remix of the original. - Created with dicebear.comInitialsFlorian Körnerhttps://github.com/dicebear/dicebearWE
    weastie
    11 months ago 83%

    So the major problem with this, is that only hens produce eggs. So what do you do with all the roosters? You really don't need that many roosters to breed hens. Since there is a roughly 50/50 split of roosters/hens, and only a couple roosters are used for breeding, what do you think happens to the rest of them? So the idea is that you can't buy or own hens without them being a product of a massive amount of roosters being murdered.

    4
  • vegan vegan The inability to recognize the highly nuanced cognitive differences between different animal species is slightly putting me off of "strict" veganism
    Jump
  • "Initials" by "Florian Körner", licensed under "CC0 1.0". / Remix of the original. - Created with dicebear.comInitialsFlorian Körnerhttps://github.com/dicebear/dicebearWE
    weastie
    11 months ago 80%

    I don't support egg or dairy. As I said in the post, my view on the "tier 2" animals is basically that I think it is possible to ethically keep them in captivity. That doesn't mean keeping them in captivity is ethical in general, but that if you really do it right I think it is okay. I think it's okay to keep a dog or a cow or a pig as a pet, but I think you really have to make sure you give them lots of space and enrichment. I don't believe you should be able to use them for resources though.

    The difference being that tier 1 animals, even if you really try to give them a good life, I don't think should ever be kept as pets or in zoos. Like I don't care if you built the coolest ever whale terrarium, sorry, not allowed to put an animal like that in captivity.

    3
  • vegan vegan The inability to recognize the highly nuanced cognitive differences between different animal species is slightly putting me off of "strict" veganism
    Jump
  • "Initials" by "Florian Körner", licensed under "CC0 1.0". / Remix of the original. - Created with dicebear.comInitialsFlorian Körnerhttps://github.com/dicebear/dicebearWE
    weastie
    11 months ago 88%

    I totally agree with the representation part. I understand I might not technically be 100% vegan, but calling myself vegan spreads awareness of veganism within my friend and family circle.

    7
  • vegan vegan The inability to recognize the highly nuanced cognitive differences between different animal species is slightly putting me off of "strict" veganism
    Jump
  • "Initials" by "Florian Körner", licensed under "CC0 1.0". / Remix of the original. - Created with dicebear.comInitialsFlorian Körnerhttps://github.com/dicebear/dicebearWE
    weastie
    11 months ago 85%

    There's definitely an extent to which my conclusion of "it's okay to eat insects" stems from trying to cope with the fact that I have pet reptiles that need to eat insects.

    I definitely believe that insects feel pain, which is why I try to give them a good life while they are alive. I guess I'm saying that if they are killed instantly, then they could potentially die a painless death, and maybe that's okay because they don't live that long in the first place.

    5
  • vegan
    vegan weastie 11 months ago 81%
    The inability to recognize the highly nuanced cognitive differences between different animal species is slightly putting me off of "strict" veganism https://lemmy.world/post/7235340

    Hi /c/vegan, I'm a baby "vegan", just started about a month ago. I started watching the YouTuber MicTheVegan as my main influence. I've been really working on and developing my belief system. The issue is, my belief system so far, while it is like 97% consistent with veganism, does have some conflicts with veganism, and I think some people would say that I can't call myself a vegan because of that. Basically, I think it's too broad to simply lump all animals into one category and say that any at all exploitation of them is wrong. Instead, I like taking a very scientific approach about what we know about different animals' cognitive and emotional abilities, and perhaps prioritize different groups of animals differently. While I'm still developing my belief systems, here's a basic rundown of it: **Tier 1: Primates, cetaceans (whales, dolphins), elephants, certain bird species (corvids, parrots), octopuses** These animals are highly intelligent and should never be exploited for any manner. They should not be kept as pets or in zoos (I suppose exceptions for if an animal is injured beyond repair). **Tier 2: Domesticated mammals (dogs, cats), farm animals (pigs, cows), other bird species, certain fish species (cleaner wrasse, groupers)** The only difference between these animals and tier 1 animals, is that I believe they can be kept in captivity (pets or in zoos). However, they need to be kept up to really high standards. They need a lot of space and a lot of enrichment. Yes, I currently believe that most people who keep dogs as pets do not treat them well enough, but I also believe that if you do treat them well that it is okay. **Tier 3: Reptiles, amphibians, remaining fish species.** The only difference between these animals and tier 2 animals is that I think the standard for keeping them in captivity can be slightly lowered. I say this as a reptile lover, I have a couple lizards as pets. These animals still need very high standards for treatment, but I believe it's okay to keep them in "cages" (really terrariums and aquariums). Basically, the science we have says that these animals just don't need the same level as enrichment. Some lizards will literally sit in one spot for days. And yes, I highly believe that these animals are abused in reality. Many people keep these animals in far too small enclosures, among other problems. The discussion of whether or not it's okay to breed these animals is highly nuanced, but I know with reptiles and amphibians, they really don't have any connection to their offspring so I don't think it's unethical to separate them. Some reptiles who lay eggs will even lay eggs regardless of if they are fertilized or not. I haven't made my mind up about it, but I think you could make an argument that you could ethically breed reptiles, maybe even argue that allowing them to breed let's them live a more natural life. **Tier 4: Insects, arachnids** Okay this is where a lot of vegans will lose me. These animals should absolutely never be tortured, but I personally think that they can be ethically farmed and consumed. I think these animals have simple enough brains that their quality of life when in a farmed environment really isn't that much different than their natural lives. I personally don't eat bugs, but I feed them to my lizards. That being said, I still think they deserve a decent amount of space, some enrichment, and a cruelty free life up until their death. **Tier 5: Bivalves (clams, mussels), annelids (earthworms), sponges.** Once again will get some hate for it, but these animals I also believe can be farmed and with even less consideration than the tier 4 animals. I don't really think these animals need any laws protecting them. They don't have central nervous systems. **Animal I'm not sure about: Crustaceans (somewhere between tier 3 and tier 4), Many fish species need more research (but I do standby that some fish, like carp and goldfish, belong in my tier 3).** I'm curious what other vegan's thoughts are about this. Can I not call myself a vegan because of this?

    53
    31
    politics politics Study: 100% of meat and dairy companies have lobbied against environmental and climate policies
    Jump
  • "Initials" by "Florian Körner", licensed under "CC0 1.0". / Remix of the original. - Created with dicebear.comInitialsFlorian Körnerhttps://github.com/dicebear/dicebearWE
    weastie
    11 months ago 100%

    Here's an actual scientific study where participants chose fake meat over beef burgers: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0963996923003587)

    While not a scientific study, we also have some funny events like:

    Sausage expert, trying to prove that plant based sausage isn't as good as the real thing, accidentally praises it: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/food/article-11485203/Sausage-expert-tricked-praising-vegan-alternative.html

    Professional chefs were often wrong about which meat was real and which wasn't in blind taste test: https://www.livekindly.com/professional-chefs-cant-tell-the-difference-between-vegan-and-animal-meat-in-blind-taste-test/

    3
  • politics politics Study: 100% of meat and dairy companies have lobbied against environmental and climate policies
    Jump
  • "Initials" by "Florian Körner", licensed under "CC0 1.0". / Remix of the original. - Created with dicebear.comInitialsFlorian Körnerhttps://github.com/dicebear/dicebearWE
    weastie
    11 months ago 100%

    Actually, vegan meats have won multiple blind taste tests over real meat. Google it, it's happened on multiple occasions -- in actual studies as well as DIY tests.

    9
  • memes Memes Deregulation will surely help the housing crisis 🤡
    Jump
  • "Initials" by "Florian Körner", licensed under "CC0 1.0". / Remix of the original. - Created with dicebear.comInitialsFlorian Körnerhttps://github.com/dicebear/dicebearWE
    weastie
    12 months ago 100%

    Lots of open job positions is very healthy for the economy, it gives the worker the ability to choose, and it makes companies have to compete. A ton of companies are literally being forced to increase their wages in order to get enough employees.

    3
  • memes Memes Deregulation will surely help the housing crisis 🤡
    Jump
  • "Initials" by "Florian Körner", licensed under "CC0 1.0". / Remix of the original. - Created with dicebear.comInitialsFlorian Körnerhttps://github.com/dicebear/dicebearWE
    weastie
    12 months ago 100%

    Firstly, I think it completely aligns with libertarian principles to regulate environmental impact. If a company pollutes the airs and rivers, that physical affects everybody.

    Secondly, yeah, it is sad that many consumers will turn a blind eye to poor working conditions and environmental impact ... but I do think there is a limit. And honestly, most of the big companies in our nation are making some attempt to improve environmental conditions, probably because they know that some people will stop buying their product if they don't. It's not a lot, but I think the fact that it's happening at all is some proof that companies can certainly be pressured into doing the right thing without legislation.

    What I like about the free-ish markets is that it at least gives you a personal choice. If you don't want to support a business, you don't have to. It sucks if other people support it, but let's be honest, if like 50% of the country wants to support a business that you don't like, then what can you expect?

    2
  • memes Memes Deregulation will surely help the housing crisis 🤡
    Jump
  • "Initials" by "Florian Körner", licensed under "CC0 1.0". / Remix of the original. - Created with dicebear.comInitialsFlorian Körnerhttps://github.com/dicebear/dicebearWE
    weastie
    12 months ago 34%

    Respectfully, I think the opposite. I think, for the most part, a free(r) market naturally benefits humans with good intentions and harms those with bad intentions.

    For example, let's say in a free market, somebody wanted to start a business with horrible working conditions, horrible salary, horrible everything. Now, if the economy is real bad then people might work there, but for the most part, that business is going to fail because people won't work there, and would choose other jobs instead. So in this case, a free market actually incentivizes "good intentions". The business owner will have to improve work conditions, salary, etc. so that people will work there instead of elsewhere.

    And one of the important aspects of a free market is the ability to start a competing business. If there was a company with overall poor working conditions and salary, it would highly incentivize someone to start a new company with better conditions, because they could pull in all the workers from the other company.

    And look, I'm not saying this is fool proof and works 100% of the time, and I'm not saying there shouldn't be a healthy amount of regulation. But if you compare this to an economic system where businesses are run by the government, you can simply just be stuck with shitty work conditions and shitty salary, and not be able to do anything about it.

    -7
  • memes Memes Deregulation will surely help the housing crisis 🤡
    Jump
  • "Initials" by "Florian Körner", licensed under "CC0 1.0". / Remix of the original. - Created with dicebear.comInitialsFlorian Körnerhttps://github.com/dicebear/dicebearWE
    weastie
    12 months ago 77%

    I really hate this sentiment because if you actually look into the libertarian party platform and their recent candidates, they are nothing like Republicans. LP has supported LGBTQ+ rights for decades, they support open borders, support social freedom, don't like religion in govt, etc. I mean, the only real overlap between the LP and Republican party is like, guns. I know many people would argue that they have similar economic policies but they really don't, all Republicans have done in the last twenty years is spend more money and specifically only remove the regulations that are actually useful.

    But at the same time, whenever I meet someone who calls themselves a "libertarian"... yeah 90% of the time they are just edgy Republicans.

    5
  • memes Memes Deregulation will surely help the housing crisis 🤡
    Jump
  • "Initials" by "Florian Körner", licensed under "CC0 1.0". / Remix of the original. - Created with dicebear.comInitialsFlorian Körnerhttps://github.com/dicebear/dicebearWE
    weastie
    12 months ago 80%

    Well, I wouldn't go as far as to say that a natural monopoly doesn't exist, but I think it's pretty clear that big companies have a lot of influence on the government, and typically can lobby the government to pass policies that benefit them, and make it harder for competition.

    And I think there's an argument to be made that if the government were less powerful, then there would be less potential harm done when a corporation is able to influence the government.

    I'm personally torn on this, because on one hand I think the government can be a useful tool in preventing monopolies, but on the other hand, I think expecting the government to not always work in favor of big companies seems naive.

    3
  • bass Bass What are your most used / favorite bass pedals?
    Jump
  • "Initials" by "Florian Körner", licensed under "CC0 1.0". / Remix of the original. - Created with dicebear.comInitialsFlorian Körnerhttps://github.com/dicebear/dicebearWE
    weastie
    1 year ago 100%

    My main pedals are Boss BC 1X (multiband compressor) and Darkglass Alpha Omega (preamp / distortion). I also have a Zoom MS-60B (digital multi-fx) but I only actually use it as a tuner.

    I typically enjoy a pretty clean tone, but I want to try out Chorus

    1
  • "Initials" by "Florian Körner", licensed under "CC0 1.0". / Remix of the original. - Created with dicebear.comInitialsFlorian Körnerhttps://github.com/dicebear/dicebearBA
    Bass weastie 1 year ago 100%
    What are your most used / favorite bass pedals?
    5
    5