Behalve het voorwaardelijk sepot zijn er ook nog sepots waardoor deze journalisten hun onschuld niet konden bepleiten. Strafblad.

https://www.villamedia.nl/artikel/onderzoeksjournalist-ton-van-der-ham-kreeg-ten-onrechte-een-strafblad-oordeelt-de-ombudsman

https://www.bnnvara.nl/joop/artikelen/eindelijk-vrijgesproken-is-dat-goed-nieuws

We need some kind of dashboard online with an overview of all the events on a timeline, just like you created.

Or a smartphone app that only pushes trial news and updates.

If he gets arrested later when he surrenders, beside a mugshot, do they also weigh Trump? Measure his height?

Dat laatste snap ik. Zeker als de server eruit ligt.

Maar aankondigingen van gepland onderhoud fijn. Bedankt alvast!

Mocht er onderhoud nodig zijn zal ik dat daar ook (indien mogelijk vooraf) aangeven, zodat iedereen weet waar ze aan toe zijn.

Is er een koppeling mogelijk met een aankondiging hier? Deze community is te volgen met RSS bijvoorbeeld, maar de statuspagina niet volgens mij.

when used properly

That's the problem. Downvotes often aren't used properly.

No account needed.

1. Select the triple dots menu in Voyager to copy a link to your OP

2. Visit kbin.social

3. Enter the copied link in the search bar

4. Open your OP

5. Click 'more' and then 'activity'

6. Click 'favorites'

You'll see a list of all accounts that upvoted your OP. Why this isn't possible on Lemmy is completely unclear to me.

Just like I don't understand why Lemmy allows for downvotes. It's not valuable and induces toxic behavior IMO.

It's also possible to view what account upvoted you by viewing your post on a Kbin instance.

I think it's rather silly that this information is obfuscated on Lemmy.

And it's only possible to upvote on Kbin. Which makes more sense to me as well.

It's not an AUTOMATIC disqualification, it still needs to be adjudicated

I might have mistaken what was written, but the scholars in the paper explicitly point out section 3 is 'self-executing'. ~Which means it does not require adjuducation.~ I was mistaken, see comment below.

If it happened before, that doesn't mean it was necessary.

Voyager is now available as a native app in the app/play store

Voyager is extremely impressive for what it is - webapp

It's not only a webapp anymore, but also available as native app now

For those who are interested: MSNBC publishes a podcast called "Prosecuting Donald Trump" and the episode dated August 1st features former federal judge Michael Luttig who is interviewed about various subjects, including his tweets concerning the standpoint of Eastman in January 2020 that implied Trump could have Pence declare the election invalid. Which was nonsense.

https://www.msnbc.com/podcasts

No, this is the most serious lacking feature IMO.

But you could of course simply register your username at multiple instances and subscribe to the same communities. As there's no 'followers' like on Mastodon, the effect is the same.

You don't need to. Voyager was just released in the app store

Eigenlijk zou je dus alleen moeten federeren met instances waar je vertrouwen in hebt dat ze data van je gebruikers wissen.

Dat is een interessante suggestie. Want inderdaad: in de wilde weg maar wat federeren brengt als risico met zich mee dat de andere partij zich niet houdt aan een bepaald verwachtingspatroon.

Ik ben het met je eens dat dit een groot probleem is. Maar ik heb nog veel grotere problemen met het commercieel misbruik en manipuleren van de grote bedrijven. Daarom heb ik nog steeds tien keer liever Lemmy dan Reddit of Facebook.

Je gaat er dan vanuit dat alle partijen met wie nu gefedereerd is of met wie gefedereerd wordt zich direct openbaren als commerciële partij.

Er is een bedrijf dat op gigantische schaal jarenlang foto's van gezichten van het internet heeft verzameld inclusief meta-data zoals onderschriften met namen. Dat bedrijf heeft dat in stilte gedaan en verkocht vervolgens de database aan regimes in landen waar je waarschijnlijk je vraagtekens bij zet, maar ook aan Nederland (die er overigens weer mee gestopt zou zijn).

Zonder dat je het weet is je gezicht dus mogelijk/waarschijnlijk opgenomen in een database en die database wordt door allerlei politie- en opsporingsdiensten gebruikt wereldwijd.

Wat houdt dus een bedrijf tegen om de vrij toegankelijke informatie van Lemmy te verzamelen? En dat vervolgens te gebruiken uit commercieel gewin? Je identiteit hoeft maar een keer gekoppeld te worden aan je username op Lemmy en het is klaar.

Ik denk dat de Lemmy of Mastodon op zich een goed alternatief kunnen zijn, maar op dit moment zie ik het voordeel niet t.o.v. bijvoorbeeld Reddit. Overigens ook omdat je accounts of communities nog steeds niet kunt migreren van de ene server naar de ander. Maar vanuit GDPR/AVG standpunt is de huidige min of meer standaardwerkwijze waarbij alles met vrijwel elke instance wordt gedeeld wel heel erg ondoordacht. En ik betwijfel of iedereen dat doorheeft.

Ik ben grotendeels weer teruggegaan naar Reddit inderdaad. Maar had de tegenwoordigheid van geest om dit account aan te houden.

Het soort probleem in de OP is de reden. Je hebt effectief geen controle over de content die je plaatst, maar het is ook onmogelijk om je account te verhuizen bijvoorbeeld.

Met name dat laatste betekent dat Lemmy niet heel anders is dan Reddit en op Reddit is het aantal gebruikers significant hoger. En je kunt je content op zo'n manier verwijderen dat het op veel minder waarschijnlijk op het internet blijft rondslingeren.

Ik vind deze bug (of wat het ook maar is) zeer serieus. Ik heb geen content geplaatst waarvan ik vermoed dat het een probleem zal zijn in de toekomst, maar dat geldt niet voor iedereen:

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/aug/10/facebook-user-data-abortion-nebraska-police

En ja, dat is een commercieel social media bedrijf, maar het probleem is hetzelfde als bepaalde content van sommige mensen blijft circuleren. Als dit een bug is, dan snap ik oprecht niet dat er niet ASAP iets aan gedaan wordt. Of mensen ervoor gewaarschuwd worden.

Zie deze issue op GitHub waar ik zojuist elders op gewezen ben:

https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/3588

If that's so, these instances (and who knows which other ones in the world) now host OPs and comments that I as an author decided to delete.

How does one delete information from the fediverse? If this is true, you cannot. Your data will be hosted forever, at least somewhere.

If people use their personal name for an account, this might result in a significant GDPR problem for all instances.

It’s a known issue:

https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy-ui/issues/1637

The point I’m trying to make clearly isn’t understood.

What I read are lots of Lemmy fans that don’t think through the lack of migration tools or blocking DMs are serious shortcomings and it obviously makes no sense to continue developing a front end if these aren’t fixed first.

But apparently many people think that’s very logical.

I hope you can come here again once the platform is a bit more polished.

Thanks and I hope so too. I’ve given it a try for four weeks.

That said: people respond with ad hominems on Lemmy as well. In fact, one of the comments to my OP is only ad hominem.

I think you cannot directly dictate what should be done

Of course, but that’s not the point of this post.

none of these issues are deal breaker

Imagine setting up a community, having thousands of subscribers and the administrator of the instance your community is hosted on pulls the plug.

And yes, I know people can host their own instance (see OP). But that won’t happen.

You’re not discussing the issue I bring up, but me.

That isn’t something I’m interested in, but some people clearly find it difficult to refrain from doing that.

Goodbye.

That’s not the point.

The donation page ‘rewards’ those with a mention, but doesn’t allow development in a certain direction.

You give money, but those who receive it get to decide what they do with it. Look at the GitHub page and check for yourself what is being done with that money.

Again, it’s their choice, but I think they should focus on much more fundamental issues. If the foundation of your house is missing, what’s the point of adding fancy woodwork to the outside? Or donating to a project where people decide they want to spend it on fancy woodwork while leaving the foundation problematic.

What I wrote was:

and therefore my critique is obviously unfair to sone extent: who am I to point out what’s wrong with Lemmy?

But you didn’t cite that. Is there a reason to leave that out of your citation?

You’re completely missing the point. Going back to Reddit isn’t contradictory, because the number of users far exceed the downsides.

Good to know it’s possible to delete an account. Did you actually try it or are you only looking at the user interface? Because I know there’s a button. That’s not the issue.

Did you review the Patreon page? I’m not interested in having my name displayed. I’m interested in having the developers take a certain direction.

Donating for hardware (like donating to Lemmy instance administrators) is also completely different.

But donating to some group of developers without being able to influence the direction of development really feels like a money pit to me. I’d rather spend my money on charities. Access to dev chatroom is the closest you can get.

My point with regard to Voyager is: there’s no point in building a beautiful house (because Voyager is very good), if you know the foundation of the house is missing.

And specifically the lack of migration tools is a very fundamental issue IMO. Yes, it might be developed in the future. But it might also take years, who knows.

Mastodon still doesn’t allow quote posts (some clients do though) because quote-tweets (or should I say quote-Xs?) can be used in a toxic way. Development promised to implement them in the back-end months ago, but it still isn’t possible. Searching is also absent on purpose. Those are fundamental issue that block further growth of Mastodon IMO. But that’s obviously just my opinion.

That’s why I think Voyager devs should spend time on Lemmy development IMO. Without a fundamental tool to migrate accounts and communities, there’s really no point in spending time on Voyager features.

I think most Lemmy users haven’t experienced an instance administrator suddenly quitting. Think through what would happen to your community if that happens. It’s gone. That’s what happens. Unless you decide to host your own instance of course, but try and get users attracted to it.

Might I suggest Proton sets up their own Mastodon and Lemmy instance? But in such a way that only employees can get an account.

That way, the accounts are instantly authorized. And you don't use bandwidth paid for by volunteers and donations.

Proton owns and uses the proton.me domain. Which means it should be possible to setup for example social.proton.me. That way, Proton could create their own Mastodon accounts:

@support@social.proton.me @<accountname>@social.proton.me

etc.

But if the company also sets up a Lemmy instance, it could also register an official Proton community.

!proton@social.proton.me

Just to be sure.

Nobody thinks it's a good idea to improve education, medical care, urban problems, rural poverty, transportation, Medicare, Medicaid and labor unions? Right?

I'm asking for somebody else.

What will Apple do if they if the EU continues their plans with regard to client side scanning? That's not one country, but many.

Apple previously planned on introducing client side scanning, but backed out after they received a high amount of critique.

I think the chances are significant that Timmermans becomes prime minister (The Netherlands is a Kingdom and has no president like France).

A Dutch prime minister usually is an elected member of parliament that is a member of the political party that received the most votes. The reason is that the largest party has the first chance to form a coalition and the largest party gets to appoint the prime minister if a coalition is formed. In theory an outside person might also be appointed prime minister, but that has never happened in history.

Yes, division of the political landscape is a problem in The Netherlands as well, but the new right wing farmer's party has more left wing social standpoints than the more conservative right wing party of current prime minister Rutte. The farmer's party is mostly upset about environmental changes that are required due to nitrogen deposition caused for about 50% by livestock. Timmermans already had a meeting with the farmer's party leader in his role as EC commissioner and that didn't result in some enormous backlash of problems. So that might be a sign the farmer's party is open for negotiation about nitrogen, as long as farmers aren't squeezed into a tight and speedily process to reduce nitrogen emissions. Timmermans is very knowledgeable about the topic and can probably work out some scheme where both benefit somehow.

The other reason why this is the time for Timmermans to leave the EC and try to become prime minister is that the green party and Timmermans' social democrat party have decided to run with one joint election list with candidates and (as we know as of today) Timmermans as leader.

Many people think Rutte's party will finally not be largest after all these years, but indeed, that still doesn't mean it's easy to form a coalition.

Timmermans is a very important candidate in The Netherlands that is having snap elections in November after prime minister Rutte finally decided to not run for his party once more after thirteen years of neoliberal governments.

It's an ideal moment for Timmermans to switch, because waiting until EU elections would mean he could not participate in the upcoming elections in The Netherlands.

That would likely mean the neoliberal VVD or farmer's party BBB would become largest and might even form an (extreme) right wing coalition just like happened in in several member states.

It's probably better for the EU that Timmermans switches now.

Well... it does help somewhat, I guess. The combination of Voyager with that instance apparently is working for you.

Set your Interface Language to your main spoken language

I already had selected them all including undetermined, because I want to read and reply in any language.

If your Interface Language was already set, the issue you have replying to comments can be related to the language of the parent comment or post.

That's what I think, because it only happens now and then.

As @UnanimousStargazer@feddit.nl mentioned in their comment, if you try to reply to a Undetermined comment/post in Lemmy via browser (not Voyager) it just shows a spinning loading button when you hit Post.

That's my own comment.

A work around is to reply to the comment directly on your Lemmy server via a web browser (not in Voyager), and select a language other than Undermined on the dropdown near the below the text field of your comment.

That's what I indeed did.

The parent comment/post issue is with Lemmy rather than Voyager, but Voyager are tracking the issue here.

I know. Thanks!

I would be a proponent of only upvotes that are public, just like Kbin does.

I might in fact switch to Kbin just for that, but Voyager doesn't work with Kbin.

Only upvotes / favorites is what Mastodon uses as well. It's the downvotes of those who don't react that can make a platform toxic. Not because the downvoters intend to, but because the author of the downvoted comment doesn't know why it's downvoted.

The developers can bring out both.

So you prefer an app that conceals information, even if other can see who up- and downvotes?

This sounds like a variation of 'security by obscurity'.

But it's already possible. If you review this OP on a Kbin instance, you'll see who upvoted the comment with most upvotes.

Not integrating it means you give the impression to users it's not public information. But it is public.