Angel 10 minutes ago • 100%
The basic philosophy of veganism is rejecting that animals are not commodities, resources, or slaves to abuse and exploit for human benefit. If the making of an imitation meat dish does not involve any of that, then it, in no way, goes against the very basis of what veganism seeks to assert.
I personally disagree with the framing that you're getting at, and I think it could be counterintuitive to say things like this to carnists, many of whom are already confused by the fact that veganism doesn't inherently entail a disgust or discomfort with the taste or even appearance of flesh itself. How you feel about this actually may be true for many vegans, and the way you feel, the way that things reminding you of such products even if they're only imitations is uncomfortable, is not invalid in and of itself. However, it's a very abstract kind of point.
Some of the flesh products that plant-based alternatives imitate aren't really kinds of products that exist in a raw, unprocessed form of meat anyway. For example, a "sausage" is a human culinary invention. Whether you're making it out of a dead animal or a plant, it's something that came out of human innovation to start with.
There's a reason why carnists freak out when they see something that resembles what seems to be a chicken head in their bucket of Kentucky Fried Carcass. Plant-based alternatives aren't striving to make plant foods resemble animals; the form that most of the flesh that people eat already distances itself from such a resemblance.
And yes, meat isn't healthy, but once again, the problem with this framing is that it's irrelevant to what veganism actually is as an ethical stance, but my apologies if that's not what you meant by bringing that up.
There are unhealthy vegans, but that doesn't speak to say that their support for animal liberation must be any bit of a different level than vegans who do eat healthily. And besides, at the end of the day, products that imitate meat are still not actually meat, so animal flesh being unhealthy is not wholly relevant to imitation meat itself necessarily being unhealthy anyway.
I get where you're coming from, but I dislike this framing because it seems linked to a personal repulsion, yet it seems like it's trying to paint the philosophical aspects of veganism broadly, e.g., "I think trying to imitate meat goes against some of the basic philosophy of veganism..."
This was just released this year, and it feels like a godsend because this kind of bass is perfect for me, especially since I've been thinking a lot about getting started on recording my debut solo EP. Originally, I was going to use a standard BTB747 to record that EP, but **this** is even better because of the advantages of fanned-fret basses, which include having some degree of more comfortable playing, but, most importantly, it entails a more clear and robust sound for lower frequencies as well. I used to play six-string bass regularly and primarily, but due to complications with my family, I lost many of my instruments. I got a budget 4-string Yamaha as a gift, and I practice it every day, but my heart has been with the extended-range prog metal kind of deal for ages. I intend to use this as my signature instrument, as it's basically the only easily accessible model that gives me everything I want from a bass. I intend to use drop A tuning on it, so it'll be rigged up with the strings from lowest to highest being A₀–E₁–A₁–D₂–G₂–C₃–F₃. Like I said, this is most certainly what I'm going to record my debut solo EP with. When I've saved up a good deal of money, especially now that I'm getting back to job stability, I plan to make it work. I have everything I need to get started on this album except for the instrument itself. I have recording equipment and a DAW, alongside my brain, creativity, and fingers, of course. I have conceptualized some things on my 4-string already, and I feel a lot of inspiration through the ideas I've been able to come up with so far. I will also eventually seek out a full band, and yes, we will dj0nt obviously, but I'll be more likely to look for other musicians after I finally start the process of beginning the actual technical workings of my solo EP, such as full-fledged songwriting, recording, and production. It will be an instrumental progressive metal bass EP consisting of multiple seven-string bass tracks, programmed drums, and maybe some light synth-like ambiance as well.
Angel 1 hour ago • 100%
Lab-grown flesh inherently and explicitly revolves around animal exploitation, and for that reason alone, I must condemn it.
Lab-grown flesh being validated in the animal emancipation movement reminds me of all of the harm that Singerian utilitarian brainrot has done to veganism, and Singer's facade is too damn strong. The man is literally not even vegan by the layman's definition of the word vegan, yet for some reason, too many damn people in the animal liberation movement uphold him as some prominent figure to use as an example of what a strong supporter of animal liberation looks like.
Shit like lab-grown meat is seen as a loophole because it appeals to the human supremacist mindset a lot more. Those who still feel like they don't want to clear themselves of the mentality that non-human animals are okay to treat as slaves think they need something like lab-grown meat as a crutch just to give animals the basic decency and respect that they deserve, and it still doesn't do that!
I'm also curious about y'all's take on imitation meat as well.
Things that emulate hamburger patties and sausage links without involving animal flesh and secretions are fine to me. My mentality has gotten to a point where I've distanced that stuff from flesh very well. To me, a burger made out of soy doesn't make me think of even comparing it to a burger made out of flesh. I literally take it as what it is: a burger made out of soy. It is its own thing to me. With enough time being vegan, I was able to disconnect the association honestly.
I'd have moments where I'd tell a friend that I tried this delicious macaroni and (cashew) cheese recipe while omitting the "cashew" portion of the sentence by mistake because it sometimes doesn't cross my mind that most people see cheese as something that comes from cow titties. The moments where I snap back into reality and focus on the fact that 99% of the world is carnist, however, end up making me frown.
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Angel 7 hours ago • 100%
thank you 🥺👉👈
Angel 7 hours ago • 100%
bumping while on my lunch break
amber whataboutism volcel police 🥺👉👈
Angel 10 hours ago • 100%
bump amber whataboutism volcel police
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Angel 12 hours ago • 100%
WHY!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
We are now at $65! Thanks to every one who helped. It seems like we're picking up. I'll admit that I often still have anxiety about reaching the goal, but I'm becoming a bit more confident. I also *did* end up reaching out to the trans organization again. Hopefully, they can provide some assistance as well. I love you all! As usual, I have Cash App, PayPal, and Venmo, all of which can be acquired through a PM. ![heart-sickle](https://www.hexbear.net/pictrs/image/14c2707b-51cb-44ed-be2f-f262d088e219.png "emoji heart-sickle")
Angel 21 hours ago • 100%
mfw gender
Angel 21 hours ago • 100%
For people that tell trans people that they "make it their entire personality," they sure do struggle to shut the fuck up about my gender more than I even do.
Angel 1 day ago • 100%
Greta THUNDERberg ⚡⚡⚡⚡
Angel 1 day ago • 100%
I'm the purple shirt guy except
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I have the inverse "problem"
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I'm transfem
Angel 1 day ago • 100%
I remember when Lenin gave this speech
Such a beautiful moment, I was at the front of the audience clapping so hard while I was tearing up
Angel 2 days ago • 100%
🥺🥺🥺🥺
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$65 now. I go to my first (training) shift today in about 4 hours. I'm feeling a bit more hopeful that I'll be able to reach the goal, but I still have periods of stress and anxiety. Any amount helps by the way! $20, $10, $5, and $1 literally all will make me feel happier than one might think. I just love to have some sense of progress. I have Cash App, Venmo, and PayPal. Thank you 🥺👉👈
Angel 2 days ago • 100%
I can't get over how awfully Palestinian Americans must feel about liberals downplaying just how bad their people have it right now.
alt titles/keywords: sxe, minor threat, first two seven inches, mackaye, punk, hardcore I've posted this .png that I spent one night making transparent on a few occasions as a (not so?) subtle nod to myself being straight edge... I think it's time
Angel 2 days ago • 100%
Angel 2 days ago • 100%
says a word that sounds eerily similar to the gamer word specifically when talking about a black group of migrants
"Bro, I didn't mean it! I just forgot how to pronounce 'migrants' for that split moment!"
Angel 2 days ago • 100%
Brought to you by the same people who gave us:
The f-slur just means a lame person. It has nothing to do with gay people! proceeds to call the next effeminate man he sees that word
The b-word isn't misogynistic. I use it as a gender-neutral insult! proceeds to casually refer to women with this term in conversation instead of just saying "women"
and let's not forget
The r-slur isn't ableist! That's just what I call everyone who pisses me off while gaming! makes this the first thing he says when he sees a person with an intellectual disability
Anyone who doesn't mind using these words in these so-called """"non-bigoted"""" contexts most likely will not mind using it to be bigoted.
Angel 2 days ago • 100%
relax, it was just a heated gamer moment
Angel 2 days ago • 97%
What are you talking about? Thatcher is a feminist icon. She was such a strongly recognized world leader who was based because women can do absolutely no wrong, and it's impossible for women to engage in any forms of oppression whatsoever. Wait, my viewpoint is essentialist and is totally at odds with feminism? These kinds of messages do nothing in liberating women or anyone who is oppressed by patriarchy? I'm sorry, what do you mean!? I'm the most radical feminist alive!
/s just in case
Angel 2 days ago • 100%
Knees weak
First time listening to this was a genuine jumpscare, and it still is!
Angel 2 days ago • 100%
What I mean when I say "send me your buttposts"
People think I'm being a creep!
Angel 2 days ago • 100%
Read the first word 😉😉😉😉😉😉😉😉😉😉😉😉😉😉😉😉😉😉😉😉😉😉😉😉😉😉😉😉😉😉😉😉😉😉😉😉😉😉🤨😉😉😉😉😉😉😉😉😉😉😉😉😉😉😉😉😉😉😉😉😉😉😉😉😉😉
Angel 3 days ago • 100%
$10 is something! Every little bit is a step closer to my goal. I really appreciate all the support, financial or otherwise. Due to the anxiety I have about reaching this deadline, this will have to be a daily thing until then. I'm thankful for all of your support. I have Cash App, PayPal, and Venmo, so shoot me a PM if you would like to help and need any of those handles to do so! ![Care-Comrade](https://www.hexbear.net/pictrs/image/a4b3e07f-7bad-42d1-beb7-a026e0191c37.png "emoji Care-Comrade")
Angel 3 days ago • 100%
Every day leads to me distrusting cracKKKers more and more, no matter how "left" they paint themselves as.
Me and the squad get hype af when he says: >Give me alchemy, give me wizardry > >Give me sorcery, thermatology > >Electricity, magic if you please > >Master all of these, bring him to his knees
Remember, EM POC only! Just brewed up the coffee, feeling like a doomer, but at least I'm about to be a caffeinated one. How are all my fellow EM POC comrades doing?
Angel 3 days ago • 100%
Joseph ZeDong Vance
Angel 3 days ago • 100%
Nah, last time I checked, Hugh Jass was a total lib. You might be thinking of Hugh Janus instead.
Angel 3 days ago • 100%
Angel 3 days ago • 100%
A turd of the past would've supported a turd of the current day
right
Angel 3 days ago • 100%
Starting today, I'm gonna make a series of posts that are in the format of "[$X / $900] Rent Fundraising Post - Day Y (Deadline: October 1)" I've been having tons of anxiety about meeting that goal because, considering how everything has stacked up over this rough period, I don't currently have any amount for this goal to be honest. I had to take care of a few other things first, but now I'm fairly comfortable in all aspects besides meeting this rent deadline of October 1st, having food and all that. My mental health is really rocky right now, and I'm dealing with harsh feelings pertaining to bigotry like racism, transmisogyny, enbyphobia, ableism, etc. With that in mind, I'd like to emphasize that any amount helps, and when I say any, I mean *any.* My situation feels bad enough that even a $1 donation would make me soy out at this point. Also, strength in numbers is a comforting thing to imagine. Like, if 10 people donated me 10 dollars each over the course of 9 days, that could reach the goal, but ultimately, I appreciate whatever you all have the means to contribute. I will keep these posts regularly updated, by the way! Hexbear is arguably the only place I have access to where I don't have to be fearful when it comes to facing bigotry. That is something I'm so grateful for, as it's been my biggest desire for ages. Thank you all 🥺👉👈 I have Cash App, Venmo, and PayPal ❤️❤️❤️
Angel 4 days ago • 100%
I've seen this guy before, but only in dreams.
Angel 4 days ago • 100%
More like deeplyunseriousposter
![scared](https://www.hexbear.net/pictrs/image/eaad3f1f-92a4-4b1f-8181-3a582a36629a.png "emoji scared")
I'm still trying to raise $900 by the first of October for the sake of paying some bills, so I may be posting frequently to build towards that goal, and I'd also greatly appreciate $25 or somewhere around that mark just so that I can get some food to stock up on. Thank you so much 🥺👉👈 we did it last time so I trust that we can do it again I haven't gotten any from my last few posts, but I understand 'cause I feel like a pest and people get busy. I love you all for lending me whatever emotional support you give me though. It means a ton more than you all think 🥺🥺🥺 I have Cash App, PayPal, and Venmo. Just PM me for any one of those Once again, thank you 🥺👉👈
Aside from the $900 due by October 1st, this is something I'm focused on Unfortunately, my post did not get any donations yesterday, but I got lots of emotional support and love, which is always appreciated 🥺👉👈 As always, PM me for Cash App, Venmo, or PayPal Love you 🥺👉👈
Next week, I have two days of training, but other than that, I don't start "real" work until Monday, September 23rd. This is to be a community organizer for a pro-worker nonprofit. I have to cover $900 by October 1st for rent. We were able to accomplish it last time, so I have a lot more confidence that we can do it again. I'd greatly appreciate any support. I will finally be able to be a full-time wagecuck 😞 (capitalism gets people thinking this is a happy thing to say). I will keep this updated. Unfortunately, just like last month, I may have to make frequent posts and be a pest again. Thank you all for being nice 🥺👉👈 I have Cash App, PayPal, and Venmo, all through PMs. ![cat-trans](https://www.hexbear.net/pictrs/image/27c31b53-f2dc-45c4-b222-fb11bdcf9d91.png "emoji cat-trans")
![pingu-horny](https://www.hexbear.net/pictrs/image/65ea9b43-46be-4579-b0fc-c63d578f6302.png "emoji pingu-horny")
This track makes a good dj0nt!
I'm getting low on a lot of things: hand soap, dish soap, dental floss, body wash, etc. I received $45 yesterday from awesome people who decided to help me out, but I used that to get some food in my fridge. I don't know what the exact amount I'll need for each product is honestly because I'm low on so many things, but $20ish should be fine. Overall, I'm trying to strive for a goal of about $900 by October 1st which I'm highly stressed about, among other things. I've been depressed the entire day, to a point where I can't even listen to music. That's usually something I *never* experience. Shit's hitting hard. As always, DM me for Cash App, PayPal, and Venmo information. You are all appreciated. I'm glad some people care about me (which is something I struggle to believe too often.)
Due to this video having an error page on Invidious and the YouTube bot having a spam problem, go to the Invidious page and hit "Go to YouTube" to see it.
The bad news is that my work situation still seems rather fucked up. The remote job that I apparently got hired by seems to be doing some very sus bullshit. They stated that they pulled me from the "project" that I was "currently working on," but what's really strange about that is that **I have not even started working on anything yet because they haven't even given me any training courses, let alone actual work!** It makes the response they gave seem very automated. I emailed them to get more information regarding these concerns, and I have no doubt that they'll struggle to be transparent. The good news is that I just got out of an interview with a pro-worker organization, and I get my answer from them within 48 hours. Not only that, but they let the people they hire start their job ASAP, so I'd potentially be working the next working day if all goes well. However, I keep my expectations for jobs accepting me low, even if the job is seemingly more leftist and pro-worker. Unfortunately, I did not get in this animal rights advocacy position that I applied for, but I'm decently more confident about this job with the pro-worker org. With all of this in mind, seeing as how it is now September 10th, I want to be rather preemptive in starting to fundraise to cover my rent/bills due by October 1st. The sooner I start, the better, because I'll have no way of telling what my work situation will be until I get more information, but I will definitely keep this community up to date with that. I'm most likely going to need to make multiple posts over time just to provide clarity on how far along I am with covering my bills. The total I need to raise is about $900 for the actual rent/bills themselves, but to be honest, $1,000 may be a tad bit more accurate considering that I also have to purchase necessities like food and hygiene products. **Any** help that **anyone** can grant me is super appreciated, even if it's not financially. Emotional support, good wishes, and even small donations of like $1, $2, $3, and $5 are all massively appreciated. I love all of you. Thank you for being one of the few genuinely welcoming online spaces for marginalized peoples. I have Cash App, Venmo, and PayPal, so anyone who is willing to donate, reach out to me through a PM or through Element, and I will let you all know. Thank you! 🥺👉👈
Remember, EM POC only! I'm a very tired Angel right now. It's about to be 2 AM, but since it's Monday, I might as well go ahead and get up this EM POC weekly thread. You know how it goes! Any EM POC vibes are welcome here.
Last post didn't get me anything, but I absolutely appreciate everyone looking out for me. Times are rough, but it seems like you all seem to care and support me, even in times when you can't assist me financially, and that is incredibly appreciated. I'm trying again because I'm worried that it's due in about 24 hours. As always, PM me for Cash App, Venmo, and PayPal.
I have to make a payment by the 10th. Last night was depressing for me because my partner's not in a good mood, as she's going through a lot of difficulties that I feel like I can't help her through using anything besides my words and emotional support, and I don't know when I'll be able to start working which is making me skeptical if I can even make next month's rent out of my own pocket. You all have been great to me 😢😢😢 As always, I have Cash App, PayPal, and Venmo, all of which you can acquire through a PM.
Honestly, not gonna be happy remaining without my Joe ![brandon](https://www.hexbear.net/pictrs/image/8cafea16-a96e-45b6-9058-2735b9b6c4ad.png "emoji brandon") Very low on funds until I can actually start working, and God knows when that'll be. I did everything in my power in regards to onboarding with my job, and I still am waiting for an actual start to a point where I'm feeling like they may be duping me. Those online remote jobs tend to not be transparent at all. However, I do have an upcoming interview for an IRL position that I feel really passionate about; it pertains to animal rights advocacy. I also applied to be a community organizer for a pro-worker organization, so let's hope that all plays out well. Thank you all for being there for me. I feel incredibly depressed today because I have anxiety about my situation and just my future in general. Lacking caffeine tends to exacerbate that for me. As always, Cash App, Venmo, and PayPal can be acquired through PM 🥺👉👈
The first second of this song is me when I see a big cockroach in my shower.
iykyk ![heated-gamer-moment](https://www.hexbear.net/pictrs/image/b2540093-3ed8-4922-9f32-23811a184e6f.png "emoji heated-gamer-moment") Edit: Fixed the fact that the guitar pic was reversed while I was making this awful meme
I enjoy coffee many ways. I often drink it black, but I also have been known to have it with unsweetened soy milk and usually agave/maple syrup in addition to that. However, I noticed that using *both* soy and a sweetener makes it taste kinda "overwhelming." This morning, I put some agave in my coffee but I put no soy, and it tastes much better. Bottom line is that I can enjoy coffee either black or with sweetener *OR* milk/creamer, but I can't do *both* sweetener and milk/creamer. Now, *that* I can't get with.
You are all awesome. I was able to get roughly $25 from yesterday, and that was enough for me to get my hands on basic bulk stuff like rice, beans, potatoes, etc, so that'll do. However, I am still needing to refill both mood stabilizers and HRT, purchase a new charger, and renew my YouTube music. So, from this, it's going to be roughly: - YouTube Music: $10.99 - Meds: $30 - Charger: $8 ($48.99) I really feel guilty requesting this stuff, but I appreciate all who are willing to help nonetheless. I just don't want to miss doses and what not, sorry 🥺👉👈 I have Cash App, PayPal, and Venmo, all of which can be acquired through DM. Thank you all so much. I can't express how grateful I am enough.
[This one!](https://hexbear.net/post/3364402) I appreciate you all who gave bumps and support regardless. I'm still struggling a bit. Big thanks for the $6 too. It means a lot because I haven't been eating too much lately. That can get me a very simple meal. I likely won't be able to start work until a week from now at the latest, so whatever you all can drop is greatly appreciated. I need those 3 things the title mentions, but I'm also hoping to go on a grocery run and buy an abundant amount of cheap foods like produce, beans, rice, tofu, etc. just to keep myself going. You are all amazing. Sorry for being a pest 🥺👉👈 Reminder: I have Cash App, Venmo, and PayPal!