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    Xenoceratops         1 year ago • 100%

    I will join you in your optimism. Who knows, maybe this platform will pick up steam in the future. I've encountered quite a few technical challenges with Lemmy too, so I can see that if things persist as they are, there would be a barrier to people participating here.

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    • musictheory Music Theory NAETE: Adam Neely is Wrong About…… A LOT
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    Xenoceratops         1 year ago • 100%

    The guy has a bachelor's degree in performance from what amounts to a trade school. He's a reasonably competent musician, but just like I wouldn't expect a plumber with the same education attainment to be an expert in materials science and the history of municipal engineering, I wouldn't expect a bass player with a performance degree to be an expert in music theory, music history, conducting, linguistics, or any of the other fields Neely comments upon when he has an agenda.

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    Xenoceratops         1 year ago • 100%

    Cool. Link us in your sidebar, we'll do the same.

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    • musictheory Music Theory How did you self-teach?
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    Xenoceratops         1 year ago • 100%

    I think it's funny that there's such an emphasis on simplicity and accessibility in self-study resources, yet the one book I consistently see mentioned by self-teachers is CiC.

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    Xenoceratops         1 year ago • 100%

    A peer group can certainly be a good motivator as well.

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    Music Theory Xenoceratops • 1 year ago • 100%
    How did you self-teach?

    What are your experiences with self-teaching music theory? You don't have to be a 100% autodidact to answer this question; you probably have had times when you read a book or watched a video to learn some specific idea or technique. Ideally, I'd like to compile some guides for readers who don't have a teacher. Personally, I prefer close reading of books and articles, but I know that's hardly a universal approach.

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    Music Theory Xenoceratops • 1 year ago • 100%
    Music Theory Graduate Diagnostic Exams

    Many graduate music programs require new students to take a diagnostic exam in music theory. Many institutions offer practice exams on their websites. Since these exams represent the expectation of knowledge and abilities acquired by the end of an undergraduate course in music theory, they can be useful as study guides or for gauging one's own level of attainment. More links will be added to this list in the future. --- 1. https://www.wmich.edu/musicgradexamprep/ 2. https://umshare.miami.edu/web/wda/frost/graduatestudies/MTC%20Common%20Practice%20Sample.pdf 3. https://umshare.miami.edu/web/wda/frost/graduatestudies/Sample%20Aural%20Portion.pdf 4. https://peabody.jhu.edu/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/GADMA-Sample.pdf 5. https://www.bgsu.edu/content/dam/BGSU/musical-arts/documents/student-resources/GraduateStudentFiles/theorysamplequestions.pdf 6. https://files.webservices.illinois.edu/5030/entrance_exam_musicology_study_guide_for_jan_2016.pdf 7. https://www.umass.edu/music/sites/default/files/assets/music/practice_diagnostic_theory_exam_general_version_2_2016.pdf 8. https://wwwp.oakland.edu/Assets/upload/docs/MTD/Graduate-Study/Grad-Music-History-&-Theory-Study-Guide-2015.pdf 9. http://www.csueastbay.edu/music/files/docs/exams/graduate-exam.pdf 10. https://music.ku.edu/graduate-music-theory-diagnostic-exam-practice-examples 11. https://www.uh.edu/~tkoozin/theory/diagnostic-exams.html 12. https://www.umass.edu/music/diagnostic-exams-graduate-study 13. https://vpa.uncg.edu/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/practice-exam-10-12-21.pdf 14. https://uca.edu/music/files/2021/04/Graduate-Diagnostic-Theory-History-Study-Guide.pdf

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    Music Theory Xenoceratops • 1 year ago • 100%
    Austin Culler: "Improvising Early-Nineteenth Century Guitar Music" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5gKMz3zegA

    A thesis lecture on partimento and schema in guitar music, including Rule of the Octave. Slides: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ad1humm0p24knp2/AACfVw3hQInIOmDxWbgpJIZza?dl=0

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    musictheory Music Theory I asked ChatGPT to create a five years music theory and music education course plan
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    Xenoceratops         1 year ago • 100%

    I mean, roughly, it's okay. The progression strikes me as very old school. Look at this:

    Year 5: Music Theory: Introduction to jazz harmony and improvisation.

    Guess what year jazz majors start doing jazz harmony and improvisation? 1! The logic here is something you see in theory textbooks from about 20 years ago, where everything past 1900 is treated as an addendum to what they considered the "normal" range of theory.

    My other criticism is that this curriculum is too vague, and this contributes to the unintuitive ordering of topics. Even if you went about learning it systematically, you would probably find yourself reshaping it based on the content you are learning.

    What would I do? Get a good modern theory textbook and go through it from cover to cover. Learn ear training topics in parallel to the theoretical topics.

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    Xenoceratops         1 year ago • 100%

    The formatting makes this difficult to read on mobile. Instead of this

    Introduction to staff notation and reading music in treble clef.
Understanding basic rhythms, including whole notes, half notes, quarter notes, and eighth notes.
Identification and understanding of major scales and key signatures.
Introduction to intervals (e.g., major 2nd, minor 3rd) and basic chord construction (major and minor triads).
Introduction to basic time signatures and simple meter.
Basic understanding of musical symbols, dynamics, and articulations.

    Try this:

    • Introduction to staff notation and reading music in treble clef
    • Understanding basic rhythms, including whole notes, half notes, quarter notes, and eighth notes.
    • Identification and understanding of major scales and key signatures.
    • Introduction to intervals (e.g., major 2nd, minor 3rd) and basic chord construction (major and minor triads).
    • Introduction to basic time signatures and simple meter.
    • Basic understanding of musical symbols, dynamics, and articulations.
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    • musictheory Music Theory Is there a name for this sort of transition commonly found in folk music?
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    Xenoceratops         1 year ago • 100%

    In Irish and Scottish instrumental folk music, it's common to perform a "set" of the same kind of dance tunes. They don't have to be in the same key or anything. Being the same kind of dance (a jig, for example) guarantees the meter is continuous though.

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    Xenoceratops         1 year ago • 100%

    It's working for me.

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    • musictheory Music Theory how to improve our musical ear ?
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    Xenoceratops         1 year ago • 100%

    What @quixotic120 said.

    You can look at what they do in music school by searching for musicianship/aural skills syllabi.

    These are the usual topics (more or less in the order they are introduced, but about halfway through become simultaneous):

    • Interval identification
    • Chord quality identification (triads, later seventh chords)
    • Scale identification (usually major and natural/harmonic/melodic minor, but some do modes and other types of scales too)
    • Solfège
    • Sight singing (rhythmic and melodic)
    • Conducting
    • Melodic dictation
    • Rhythmic dictation
    • Harmonic dictation
    • Polyphonic dictation

    Keep in mind that you'll do these with a concurrent course in theoretical topics.

    I should also emphasize that having a good command of theory is of tremendous help to developing your ear; a lot of what we do, especially for hard-to-hear things like inner voices in a thick texture, is logical inference based on things we know. There's a video by Sean Wilson that demonstrates this nicely.

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    Jazz - For all the jazz lovers Xenoceratops • 1 year ago • 100%
    Steve Coleman Group - Motherland pulse (1985) www.youtube.com
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    Xenoceratops         1 year ago • 100%

    Unfortunately, characters like Neely exist because of a general lack of knowledge and interest on the part of the public that also props him up. He's like any of these other TED Talk infotainment guys, circulating shallow, inaccurate, harmful ideas with absolutely no accountability.

    Occasionally he's on the money. There's a video about tritones that I really don't object to. From a musicology/history of theory perspective, there's nothing controversial about it and I appreciate that he's pushing back on a common myth.

    Other times, he says some really dubious stuff. There's that video about some modulation in a Celine Dion song that pieces together its argument from another feel-good edutainment music theory work that nobody examines critically, Harmonic Experience by W.A. Mathieu, and some idealistic embodiment stuff (vulgar though; he doesn't cite Arnie Cox or anyone like that, not that I think that would make it any better). The experienced analyst really has to suspend their disbelief. The harmonic dualism he draws from Mathieu was called out as nonsense back in the 19th century, for fuck's sake.

    Then, there's another video on that Recorder Team lady's channel where we learn that Neely has never before heard of red notation or the rhythmic craziness of Ars Subtilior/Trecento music. Do they not teach music history at Berklee?

    When I watch his videos, I get the pervasive sense that he only first encounters the concept at hand a few weeks before, and his familiarity with said topic is limited to what he researched for that specific video. He basically makes undergraduate research essays with a budget. And people pay him for it and take it for gospel.

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    Music Theory Xenoceratops • 1 year ago • 66%
    NAETE: Adam Neely is Wrong About…… A LOT https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3tXfdNVjSQ

    A YouTube video about Adam Neely's selective presentation on classical musicians' rhythm, bullying of Adam Ragusea and subsequent failure to retract his fallacious claims, and potential plagiarism of Sideways.

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    Piano And Keyboards Xenoceratops • 1 year ago • 100%
    Circus Galop by Mark-André Hamelin www.youtube.com

    Crazy player piano piece. If you haven't heard it, now you have.

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    Music Theory Xenoceratops • 1 year ago • 100%
    Music Theory Resources

    Here is a short list of links for learning music theory and other related skills. --- Online textbooks and learning resources * Devore, Richard O; Kulma, David; Naxer, Meghan; Clark, Jason; Kuhns, Krystal. [How Music Works: A First-Year Theory Textbook (2nd ed.)](https://oaks.kent.edu/oerbooks/1) * [musictheory.net](http://www.musictheory.net/), lessons and exercises for theory and ear training. * [Music Theory for the 21st-Century Classroom](https://musictheory.pugetsound.edu/), an open-access textbook by Robert Hutchinson. * [Music Theory for Musicians and Normal People](http://tobyrush.com/theorypages/index.html), convenient one-page summaries written by Toby Rush, covering freshman and sophomore theory. * [Open Music Theory](http://openmusictheory.com), an open-access online textbook * [teoria.com](http://teoria.com/), lessons and exercises for theory and ear training. * [Hex Music Theory](https://hexmusictheory.com/), YouTube videos, analyses, and supplemental materials for a wide variety of theoretical applications. From popular music to classical, guitar stuff, schema theory, Taneyev-style counterpoint, and more. * [Dave Conservatoire](http://www.daveconservatoire.org/), a Khan Academy style website. --- Books * Christensen, Lars. [The Cambridge History of Western Music Theory](https://www.examenapium.it/cs/biblio/Christensen2002.pdf) --- Notation software * [Musescore](https://musescore.com/) * [flat.io](https://flat.io/) --- Other programs * [Audio Timeliner](https://www.singanewsong.org/audiotimeliner/download.html), analysis graphing software by Brent Yorgason. --- Online Tools * [Juicio Brennan's Lyric Hyphenator](https://juiciobrennan.com/hyphenator/) - Automatically hyphenates lyrics. Saves time when copy-pasting into notation programs. * [PC Set-Class Calculator](https://www.mta.ca/pc-set/calculator/pc_calculate.html) - By David Walters at Mount Alison University. * [TrainedEar PC Set-Class Calculator](https://www.trainedear.net/other/pc-set-class-calculator/) - Another set calculator. Has links to more such tools. * [ToneSavvy](https://tonesavvy.com/music-practice-exercises/) - Exercises for many normal music theory things, but notable for its [first species counterpoint trainer](https://tonesavvy.com/music-practice-exercise/241/first-species-counterpoint-game/). * [Artusi: Counterpoint](https://www.artusimusic.com/assignments/1473/artusi_main_any_ps009/) - A demo of the Artusi software, but it has some exercises in counterpoint up to fourth species with decent error detection. * [WesterParse - Westergaardian Species Counterpoint Online](https://hdw.wustl.edu/news/westergaardian-species-counterpoint-online) - Software based on the counterpoint rules of [Peter Westergaard](http://library.lol/main/593590BC0F355EC7FF2B718F2CB9FAEB). Not as straightforward as the other counterpoint tools on this list, but certainly more flexible and robust. --- YouTube channels * [Alan Belkin](https://www.youtube.com/@alanbelkin9272/videos) - classical composition and orchestration * [Bill Carmody](https://www.youtube.com/@Music4Theory/videos) - Music Theory chapter reviews of "Music in Theory and Practice" by Benward and Saker. * [David Newman](https://www.youtube.com/@DavidNewmanFunctionalSolfege/videos) - ear training and musicianship * [Dr. B / Christopher Brellochs](https://www.youtube.com/@ChristopherBrellochs/videos) - undergraduate theory and ear training * [Early Music Sources](https://www.youtube.com/@EarlyMusicSources/videos) - counterpoint, Renaissance and Baroque music * [En blanc et noir](https://www.youtube.com/@enblancetnoir7516) - Partimento, classical improvisation * [GUIM](https://www.youtube.com/@GUIM1797/videos) - Schenkerian analysis of video game music (VGM) * [Jacob Gran](https://www.youtube.com/@JacobGran/videos) - species counterpoint, Schenkerian analysis * [Jay Beard Music](https://www.youtube.com/@jaybeardmusic8074/videos) - atonal, set theory, Scriabin * [Jens Larsen](https://www.youtube.com/@JensLarsen/videos) - jazz guitar * [Kent Hewitt](https://www.youtube.com/@KentHewittpiano88/videos) - jazz piano * [Metal Music Theory](https://www.youtube.com/@metalmusictheory5401/videos) - self-explanatory * [Music Matters](https://www.youtube.com/@MusicMattersGB/videos) - ABRSM and undergaduate music theory, as well as various other topics * [NAETE](https://www.youtube.com/@NAETEMUSIC/videos) - various pop and classical music topics * [Orchestration Online](https://www.youtube.com/@OrchestrationOnline/videos) - orchestration * [The Prog School](https://www.youtube.com/@TheProgSchool/videos) - progressive rock and metal composition * [Ryan Leach](https://www.youtube.com/@RyanLeach/videos) - composition, film and video game music (VGM), classical form * [Samuel Andreyev](https://www.youtube.com/@samuel_andreyev/videos) - 20th century composition and analysis * [Seth Monahan](https://www.youtube.com/@SethMonahan/videos) - undergraduate theory * [Signals Music Studio](https://www.youtube.com/@SignalsMusicStudio/videos) - pop and rock music, production * [Sideways](https://www.youtube.com/@Sideways440/videos) - various topics, film music * [Things I Learned from Barry Harris](https://www.youtube.com/@thingsivelearnedfrombarryh2616/videos) - jazz guitar * [Walk That Bass](https://www.youtube.com/@WalkThatBass/videos) - jazz piano * [8-bit Music Theory](https://www.youtube.com/@8bitMusicTheory/videos) - video game music (VGM) ::: spoiler spoiler ___ ::: ::: spoiler spoiler ___ :::

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    Music Theory Xenoceratops • 1 year ago • 100%
    Welcome to /c/musictheory!

    Welcome to our community! I was a moderator and contributor at /r/musictheory on Reddit, and I'm hoping to build a robust place to discuss music theory here. Forums are always difficult to start, but I'm hoping that as more people find Lemmy, they'll discover this community and bring their knowledge, questions, and relevant things to share. If you have any suggestions for this place in the meantime, don't be shy. Cheers, X

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