Yeah. That's what I said

In this case, the "lemmy devs" and the operators of lemmy.ml are the same people and it's hosted within EU.
But - that's still a far cry from getting any kind of GDPR violation report going, much less getting it through the process to actual fines.
People like to bring up GDPR violations as a some kind of super-moderator tool, but it isn't that easy and it definitely isn't automated.

Effect of ActivityPub, not Lemmy. All federating systems function similarly, because it's a feature of the protocol.
If instances want, they can ignore delete requests and your content stays in their cache forever (remember Pleroma nazis from couple of years ago?) - now, that is an instance problem that might be a GDPR issue, but good luck reporting it to anyone who cares. At best you can block and defederate, but that doesn't mean your posts are removed.

The fediverse has no privacy, it's "public Internet". Probably a good idea to treat it as such.

This is a good start: https://cyber.fsi.stanford.edu/io/news/addressing-child-exploitation-federated-social-media

I find it interesting that Meta Platforms, Inc., a company known for harvesting user data, is blocking some servers from fetching its public posts. They decided to implement a feature Mastodon calls Authorized fetch.

This was always going to happen. They will block agressively, because they can't have their precious advertising money mixed with CSAM, nazis and other illegal content. And the fedi is full of that.

I hope not

I've been using Debian since 1.3. Haven't really ever needed anything else.
I did "experiment" a bit when the decision to go with systemd was taken, but in the end, most distros went with it and it really isn't that big deal for me.

So it's just Debian. I need a computer that works.

Who needs parody when these things write themselves

How is Lando higher than Rovanperä? WTF? What championship did he win? Or better.. did he actually win anything at all this year?

Pleroma in that case I guess

Gates is probably just as bad and evil as the global 0.1%:er billionaire cabal members come, but that site gave me a crackpot conspiracy brainrot.

It's wild that a site with hundreds of millions of users, didn't invest into multiple-account deletion tools.
True start-up mentality, that one.

Just shows how our "critical" social media is really just some hasty tape and bubblegum behind the scenes to keep the front from falling apart.

As is the case normally with these "exodus" things, most people went back to Reddit after the first month here.

I guess majority on fedi are dumbasses in that case ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Mastodon is pretty fucked up anyway because everyone is on mastodon.social.

Because the people signed the pact did it long time ago, before any details about Threads federation was known. It was a typical fedi kneejerk reaction.

I still do that for meeting minutes, out of old habits, but other stuff like design notes/specs need to be e-mailed around, so it had to be something digital. Markup in text files was my solution.

I've never used Evernote, I thought it was something Mac specific?

I'm old school. I use text files

It's a silly hashtag för instances that are in a "pact" to block Threads

Somehow I don't think many instance admins have resources or knowhow to drive legal processes against Meta?

And while a disclaimer on the instance page might have some effect, the Federation protocol makes it hard to avoid getting a copy of the said content in your cache.

How do we accomplish that?

Why spend the money up front? That's just bad business.

Yeah agreed. They're building a multi-million dollar social network - why spend all that money up front when they could have just installed small anonymous Pleroma on Raspberry Pi for under 100 bucks if they'd wanted to mine our data.

I don't think fedi is their "target".

I bet he does. You can block/mute influencers pretty easily and you can block the whole domain if you so wish.
He's talking about some kind of nefarious ad injection into ActivityPub objects as part of server to server activities.

I think he's talking about people on his own instance.
He's Fosstodon admin, so pretty sure he knows how federation works.

doesn’t mean we have to hand it to them on a silverplatter and allow them to scrape it legally

They could have just set up a simple Pleroma on Raspberry Pi and it would have been just as "legal" as any other instance. You'd need to turn on AUTHORIZED_FETCH and set up authentication on the Mastodon API, otherwise everything is public and unauthenticated (even if the instance is suspended/defederated).

But if enough instances say no, that means they are not welcome. Democracy and all

mastodon.social has already said yes. So have all the other big instances. Most of them have said "we'll wait and see". So democracy served I guess

And the last point is the dumbest: Threads will just include a revenue sharing model like Youtube does

Yeah, maybe. Who knows. I'll deal with it when it happens rather than knee-jerk years in advance. Threads has a long way to go, it's missing a lot of features to put it on par with their other commercial competitors, so I think they're going to be busy doing other things.

Yeah, that's pretty much my take as well.

All the "but muh datas" pearl clutching is just annoying and frankly, ridiculous. If they wanted to mine us, they already would have. They're probably doing it as we speak. They didn't have to create a multi-million social network for it. A raspberry pi on someones desk would have sufficed. Fedi doesn't have any (/very much) privacy.

They're doing this to escape the wrath of EU privacy watchdogs. They were already fined for $1.3bn and more is coming. Running their Twitter killer on interoperable protocol is nice, because it's free and they get to point at W3C and say they're LIKE TOTALLY supporting data portability. Why would they "extend and extinguish" that? It's their alibi.

I don't like Meta. It's a shit company ran by shit people. I hope they burn in hell.
But I can't really get my panties in a twist about threads.net existing.

I'll get angry if they somehow figure out to push ads to my face.

But for now. Maybe I'll block it. Maybe I won't. We'll see.

Local mail client (Thunderbid) -> IMAP/POP -> sync.
Once done, move to a local folder and delete from Gmail.
You can just backup the Thunderbird profile, if you want to keep the mails safe

He can touch deeznuts

Why are they still in EU? Isn't it time to revoke their membership card and benefits?

Yeah will be interesting to see if they enable two-way federation. It's problematic for them

Not more than it is now. Everything is already public so if they need it, they've already been collecting it. This doesn't really change anything.

Will be interesting to see how they deal with nazis and CSAM from all the Japanese servers.

You wouldn't download a train?

Serving my car with 3rd party parts is stealing?

Yeah, and as the article links, this is just not about media, CDs, DVDs and games. It's also about very physical products that we immediately associate as "owned" - like printers, phones, cars, tractors or even, (lol) trains. They're all locked to manufacturers parts and repair services and increasingly difficult to circumvent.

Get a physical copy that doesn’t require internet activation then, assholes.

I think the point was, it is increasingly hard to find such products.
And even once you think you've bought such product, DRM makes sure it's still not really yours.

Vironlainen tuli, vaikka kovasti yritin torjua kahvilla ja metallilla. Lihan, viinan ja uskonnon puutteet varmaan pudotti pisteet.

Everyone should skip COP28. It's just a scam.

There's thousand different stats around this, but generally most analysts place consoles slightly ahead of PC with stronger growth potential, but it depends a bit where in the generation cycle they do their measurements.

Most of this has been overshadowed by mobile gaming though.

Smaller marketshare,
Pretty sure they'd release mobiile > console > PC if they could get away with it.

The PC release will be a year or so after to get people to double dip.

But at least MKBHD tried to say nice things about it in his video. He really tried.