comradeship Comradeship // Freechat my college class has the black panther ten point program and an excerpt from the communist manifesto as reading!
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    Ah, yeah usually they do unfortunately take such a stance to marx. Yup, I saw this class and knew I had to take it. no regrets.

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    aww… for sociology class? I know they cover marx often.

    Also my professor is so cool first day he was like this class takes an anti colonial stance(and implicitly was like if you disagree then drop) and that he talks about how our uni was founded on stolen land and such.

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    my college class has the black panther ten point program and an excerpt from the communist manifesto as reading!

    like the title says. it’s for the last week so got a bit until then. covers science and racial capitalism. really loving the course rn. also i talked about marx w base/superstructure and the prof loved that! just some unstructured thoughts. very happy so wanted to share

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    chapotraphouse chapotraphouse Pic of all (most) the dope merch I got in China on my month long trip
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    I am ashamed to admit that the merch i got on my china trip mostly consists of... checks notes... hatsune miku, jjk, and sanrio merch.... oops.

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    Hmm, i feel like most abc believe china to be really nice environment wise like rest of asia but dislike the government. memes like social credit are pretty common. It’s never to the point of demonizing chinese people, i would say the most common stance is support for the people but not the government.

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    My experience on HSR and the Chongqing Metro

    Hi, I thought'd i'd make a separate post on hexbear for HSR/CRT. The main china summary post is on lemmygrad if yall wanna check it out. I rode the HSR 3 times total, and I've said this a couple times, but the biggest compliment I can give is my lack of complaints. The experience was super smooth, very quick security check and quick ticket check into a very smooth train ride. I will say I really do not like how loudly people speak on calls but that is more of an old person thing and noise canceling headphones do the trick. ![](https://lemmygrad.ml/pictrs/image/80c5d76d-8ad8-44ed-969a-e7ce65897802.jpeg) ![](https://lemmygrad.ml/pictrs/image/b898ef80-9c16-4aca-ab37-d2ef84f87115.jpeg) ![](https://lemmygrad.ml/pictrs/image/07b0e25a-b85e-46f7-be46-7114ea86172f.jpeg) ![](https://lemmygrad.ml/pictrs/image/3ab9a635-6b15-4143-8aff-c377ea076b08.jpeg) ![](https://lemmygrad.ml/pictrs/image/a005202c-4c11-405c-9cd4-c6e956cfcf59.jpeg) As for the Chongqing Rail Transit, the CRT was probably the cleanest metro i've ridden on before(I've only been on the NY subway and the Toronto TTC before). Pricing was from 1-7 yuan(0.15-0.95 dollar) ![](https://lemmygrad.ml/pictrs/image/940c4102-314b-4d6d-9e56-c8105da6a675.jpeg) There was communist imagery(only on line 5 though) images aren't uploading so i'll try and edit with them or add them to the comments There were different AC settings on different cars(a lot of older chinese don't like too much AC), and overall very good experience. Not too notable either except cleanliness which I think is a plus.

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    comradeship Comradeship // Freechat Reflections from a trip back to china
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    LOL yes it would probably be a lot better experience with some chinese knowledge. Also if you can somehow meet a chinese person and have them show you around(maybe try a language exchange idk), that would be cool too.

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    Hmm... another comrade might be able to answer this better.

    For the mountain that my grandparents have a home near chongqing, we took a 40 minute train ride and then rented a car and drove for like an hour and a half. It wouldn't be a place that you would really go without like knowing someone who lives there tho...

    Another option is like Zhangjiajie, the avatar mountains but they're super busy i hear. For green space there is a ton throughout the city, but if you really want like a hike/nature destination i wouldn't know enough to answer.

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    Hm... the malls were more empty than you'd expect, except at like the super big places. I think the places locals would actually frequent and super big attractions still had a lot of people. I just remember this one mall in nanchang was mostly empty... And i've heard multiple people say the economy isn't as great in non-political situations. It's likely that the average citizen can feel that the economy isn't as growing as fast as before, but I don't ever hear "China Collapse," no one would say that china would collapse I feel.

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    right? it's mind blowing to me how cheap everything is in comparison. The most expensive part about my trip was my plane ticket... hopefully it goes down to precovid prices.

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    Personally, I feel american in that I've absorbed a lot of parts of the culture, which I think there are parts that I prefer to chinese culture as i've kinda alluded to above, but I hold more national pride for China, personally. I cheer for China in the olympics, and personally am a lot more interested in Chinese history. I'm still not sure what I fully consider myself, maybe still chinese-american?

    For most ABCs I feel that they either have a very negative perception of china, or a positive perception of china with a negative perception of china. The people who were with me on the camp pretty unilaterally would be against the chinese government(no democracy, etc...) but they could just feel that the environment was just better I think.

    Hmm... For example the rock climbing place I went to was a bit cheaper than the rock climbing place I usually go to(and a lot smaller) in absolute terms, but relatively it would be much more expensive. I couldn't tell you about the skiing, baking, or art studio though. My guesses is that they'd be pretty expensive for regular people. In addition, my cousin said that most locals don't frequent the super big chongqing mall that i showed, but rather just go to smaller local shops as while it's not unaffordable, it's just much more cost effective to buy things elsewhere.

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    LOL. If possible my dream is get a job for an american company in China. The living environment is just better there. Sounds like a cool experience but it's like after living in China and experiencing the light, how do you go back...

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    No, I tried buying mao's little red book but I couldn't really find it. That being said I didn't really look for it. My chinese is not good enough to read theory in it, so just reading translations for now. I did see multiple copies of Xi's book though.

    Yes, i've talked in the "Zoro in china" thread on the second thought discord.

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    hahaha i was just in chongqing and it was 40 too. they're not called the 四大火炉 for no reason.

    Also how do you do the furigana like superscript?

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    I just came back from china where like 5 star hotels go for $100, luxury hotels go for like $50, and like regular ones for like $25 and these prices feel even more absurd...

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    Reflections from a trip back to china

    I will be a bit vague with parts of this but hopefully this will be of interest to some of you. Apologies in advance that this might be more a list of disjointed thoughts than really a chronological recount. I was born in the US and I am part of the Chinese diaspora. I haven't been back since before covid. I've mentioned this on a couple other parts of lemmygrad but I went on a trip that was funded by the chinese government, essentially a group tour around china. My one complaint is that 13+ museums in a 10 day span is... a bit much. One thing I found interesting was the amount of communist imagery present. You'll find it if you're out and about on the city, or in the entrance of museums/parks if you're looking for it. Especially the "Socialism Core Values" sign, I saw a ton of those signs. I know that because I was visiting I saw a ton more than I would in day to day life, and I don't think it would feel too intrusive in day to day life, but it maybe felt slightly excessive to a visitor? I definitely prefer them than advertisements, like on Line 5 of the Chongqing Metro. ![](https://lemmygrad.ml/pictrs/image/543be833-9cb5-45ed-866a-9559d5ced48c.jpeg) As for the cities, they were really nice. Really interestingly, though, because the second tier cities I was at developed later than for example Nanjing, the environment was a lot cleaner and modern than Nanjing actually. The cities are decently walkable, tons of metro/bus, didi(chinese uber) is incredibly cheap, and there are tons of public bikes/e-bikes to rent. Streets were clean of trash, tho the older places didn't have trash per se, but rather gave a dirty vibe. The new parts of china are better than the US, and the old parts are worse. China is still definitely a developing country, which is sometimes easy to forget with how fast it's developing. On another note, the common sentiment i've heard is that 发展, development, has been really fast. This is obvious to even us from the west, but it's really hard to think that there are people living from pre-解放(pre-1949, pre-liberation, pre-cpc? idk the best term to translate this), serfs, essentially, who have seen the country develop to this extent. For example, a taxi driver I was talking to on the way to a HSR station, mentioned that the district we were driving through was just barren dirt when he was a child. >The superiority of the socialist system is demonstrated, in the final analysis, by faster and greater development of those forces than under the capitalist system. As they develop, the people’s material and cultural life will constantly improve. One of our shortcomings after the founding of the People’s Republic was that we didn’t pay enough attention to developing the productive forces. Socialism means eliminating poverty. Pauperism is not socialism, still less communism … \- Deng Xiaoping It was also really interesting to see things i've read about like, 绿水青山就是金山银山(i think it translates to lucid waters and lush mountains are invaluable assets?, it works a bit more poetically in chinese i swear). However seeing it in like the really pretty parks they've constructed is a lot different than just reading about it i think. ![](https://lemmygrad.ml/pictrs/image/5b1fb1dc-4cb9-4b0b-a10b-73fce587f201.jpeg) ![](https://lemmygrad.ml/pictrs/image/10ce4934-03bc-4156-a7c8-975246cc8d1e.jpeg) There still are definitely contradictions within china. One thing i've heard is the pressures of having to provide a house and car from the son's family(tho the tradition varies by province and is better in some), housing prices, and not great state of the economy. as for food - really good. i typically eat chinese food at home anyways so it was so great coming back to china eating-wise. Also there is this mountain in chongqing that is literally full of just hotpot restraints. ![](https://lemmygrad.ml/pictrs/image/937e77e7-6949-4a7b-b302-053a11111898.jpeg) As for traditions, i think it can be a bit overbearing at times. 面子, face, and like gift culture is much too roundabout for my tastes. However, I do get a pass for when i don't follow them because i'm a foreigner(it'd be even more if you were like white), but still I feel like it's a bit much... mandatory gifts at every occasion makes it almost like less special to give gifts and also genuinely a burden to get gifts for everyone... Prices - oh my god everything felt so cheap. Some of the best milk tea i've had for 20 yuan(3 bucks). didi(ubers) for like 10-20 yuan for like even a (10+) min ride. My friend got meituan(chinese doordash?) delivery for neck pillows right before his flight and it came same hour. Everyone uses QR codes here(!!), and there are portable chargers for rent everywhere. I'm not joking when i say everything is so much more convenient here. FRUIT IS SO CHEAP, my heart can't take $6 watermelons at sams club after the prices in china... I don't think people in china understand how bad it is in the west like living/convenience wise. I mentioned to a massage lady that the wage for a service worker is like 40k+ and they got so excited about that prospect because in china that would be a very large wage. However, because they're considering china prices they don't understand how hard it would be to live on that much because of how insane housing and cost of living prices are in america. TO ADD ON, hotels are so cheap. Genuine 5 star hotel for $100, luxury chinese hotel for like $50 too. Like for rent you can actually star for multiple months in a nice chinese hotel. Speaking of prices, qinghua(tsinghua uni), beida(peking uni), and other schools are less than 1k a year in tuition. what the hell. I'm going UMichigan in state and i'm still having to pay 20k in tuition. (I might study abroad next year next year in china, it's crazy that the school is in top 5 in the world in engineering, above MIT and stanford for that category). I swear the malls here are so much better. a random mall i went to in a second tier city was better than literally any mall i've been to in america. And look at this mall in chongqing(the pastries were so good, not too sweet) ![](https://lemmygrad.ml/pictrs/image/16bc0e36-eb5e-4032-ab46-707509504e94.jpeg) And a mall in Xiamen had rock climbing, an art studio, indoor skiing(which idk how that works), a rentable kitchen space, and such good milk tea. And finally, the HSR and metro experience. Honestly, I don't have many comments on the HSR, and I think that's the biggest compliment I can give it. You go through security that's really quick, wait for your train(unfortunately it was so jam packed i didn't get a seat some of the time i've ridden it) then get on and you really don't feel much when riding it. It's quite quiet and not much vibration at all. The fact that it was so non-memorable makes it all the more impressive. Big cool station and trains and good smooth experience. ![](https://lemmygrad.ml/pictrs/image/b9d8249e-7f22-4a29-ba3b-872de1287d8e.jpeg) As for the metro, it was very nice a lot cleaner and more modern than the NY and toronto metros. The fare ranges from 1-7 yuan depending on how far you go, (0.15 cents to 1 dollar), and you can just scan a QR code on wechat to pay. ALSO they have different air conditioning depending on the car which is really cool. Full platform screen doors too(and not screen doors, but other barriers at elevated stations). ![](https://lemmygrad.ml/pictrs/image/6ab75fd2-22cf-4644-8595-bc84c8bdafa4.jpeg) ya'll should ever go back to china if you get the chance. The most unforunate part is that there are a lot less flights and they're a lot more expensive post-covid. Your flight will probably be the most expensive part of your trip... anyways that was a lot of yapping, i'm still a bit jet-lagged so i'll end it here. feel free to ask any questions

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    still in china camp. got some running(while singing terrible ass karaoke w a friend but it was really fun). Hoping to get some rock climbing in before my flight(to a different part of china) tomorrow

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    i just clicked cancel so now i gotta retype my comment 😭

    it’s in chinese and it basically shows clips of foreigners vlogging and showing their reaction. i think there was a… russian? i don’t know what language the vlogger was saying(there were chinese subtitles tho), and it just went through a couple comments too. essentially detailing like comments about safety, infrastructure, rail, etc…

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    still at the china camp so not too much to report. slept kinda late up w friends last night but i don’t regret it. flying to fujian province later today.

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    Hmm I don’t think i actually asked about GLF. Cultural rev he acknowledged it was a mistake probably overall, but it wasn’t like a completely bad thing but yeah that living in a time where if you said something wrong it would be very scary. Tiananmen didn’t use the term color revolution cuz we were talking in chinese but basically described it as such and like we can talk about it but the problem with talking about online is if you’re like wrong then it becomes baseless speculation and that’s not really okay. problem of national security and like being against dissident voices isn’t something unique to china either really. hong kong/taiwan were like why would they want to even have independence they’re in the grand scheme of things rather small islands and doing well under the current administration ig. i don’t remember exactly what he said but something about those lines.

    so pretty much mostly in line with what i expected.

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    Yes probably. I asked if they were part of the communist party and they said they were part of the youth one.

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    i’m not sure what you mean by the “so… i’m on such a camp” could you clarify? do you mean that you are on a similar chinese government funded camp?

    oopsies if i am misreading or reading too much into it but just a bit confused

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    Talked with a member of the or the Chinese Communist Youth Party

    Hi. Sorry for promising a HSR post but never making one. The images are too big for lemmygrad and i’m going to wait until this (chinese government sponsored tour on their dime for chinese diaspora) summer camp is done and have access to my computer to post(might be a week or two tho). Anyways we had some students join us from a local college on the summer camp and i ended up talking for a hour or two with someone about chinese and american politics(albeit my chinese needs some work LOL) and later found out they’re a member of the youth communist party(asked him right before he left). Very interesting to hear much of the concepts i’ve read about in conversation and hearing the chinese names of such. I did in fact ask about the great leap forward, great proletarian cultural revolution, tiananmen square, hong kong protests and taiwan independence just out of curiosity. got pretty satisfactory answers. Anyways just wanted to share and thought you guys might want update on my china trip. oh this is kinda rambly but my god has it changed since like even 2018, the last time i went back. i know we definitely visited the nicer parts as the government def wants to put themselves in a good light but the parks all were a part of some 社会主义(socialism) effort and they were rlly rly nice. anyways ill make a post at end of trip w pictures. sorry for unstructured rant LOL

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    it’s government sponsored too. it’s basically the chinese government offering a free tour for chinese diaspora on their dime

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  • genzhou GenZhou "Marxism is a Science" (excerpts from speeches by Deng Xiaoping) | GenZedong/GenZhou Reading Group (Juche 113, Week 28-29)
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    i really liked this article. i’m pretty sure i’ve read it before but it was a good reminder.

    something’s that stuck out to me was that he understood the material conditions of china really well. he mentioned how he doubts china would have survived june 4th without reform and opening up. he understood that capital wasn’t an inherently evil thing, contrary to moralism, and that it was something to be used to improve the lives of the chinese people.

    another thing is it’s interesting to see “left” as what we refer to as ultras and “right” as well capitalist in general. it does make sense to see those things from their perspective having a socialist government though.

    good read!

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    been at a summer camp in china so not too much time but been getting some running and taiji as well as some journaling in. really missing rock climbing hopefully i can do some when the camp finishes and i head to chongqing.

    going pretty good

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    Shanghai Pudong Airport People-Mover

    Back in china for the first time since pre-covid. Shanghai pudong airport people mover, connected terminal 1 to a satellite boarding area(which apparently is the largest in the world, opened in 2019 and very nice i liked it). The people mover rolling stock consists of crrc class A with full ass platform doors. i did see the sign for the maglev but did not end up riding it, didn’t have a need to. Anyways riding HSR tomorrow so expect pictures of that tomorrow. i’m not sure what community to post this on so i’ll post it here for now. if there is a better community for this lmk! edit: oops the image didn't attach fixed

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    this week i got back into meditation and running and it really helped. i think i was hitting autistic burnout cuz i got super overstimulated easily and just couldn’t bring myself to do anything but after reading ismatu’s article https://ismatu.substack.com/p/girl-go-to-sleep-ft-lessons-from i finally allowed? myself to actually get some rest and dear god did it help.

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    Does anyone know what the status of the qinghua university implant was. I remember reading about it a while ago but anyone have any updates?

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    hey… as the only poster in the clarinet community - yeah no that’s fair i only posted because i saw someone else created it and there were no other posts

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    Went to the university i'm going to next fall's encampment. It's crazy to go from high school where i could barely find anyone supportive of palestine(supportive enough to actually take action. most people were supportive but like no one did anything which pisses me off to no end but tangent aside) to a full on encampment. food was bussin tho

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    5 months ago 100%

    Also relating to the comment below my multitotal and your response, i agree with multitotal that it’s a bit of a romanticization but also i think this can viewed as a negation of the negation. Negation of the primitive structure and the modern alienated structures for a synthesis into hopefully a better society.

    That felt a bit incoherent but i’m too lazy to reword that so hopefully it’s at least somewhat understandable.

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    5 months ago 100%

    https://www.researchgate.net/publication/311811471_An_Introduction_to_Generative_Justice

    I was reading this paper a while ago and this is Marx’s theory of alienation. When we are so alienated from the products of our labor it seems to pointless often.

    The paper talks about how even under socialist economies labor is alienated to be redistributed by the state. An improvement on capitalism, but nonetheless alienated

    Another way capitalism alienates us, while not directly marx’s analysis on labor, is from community. It’s so hard to have community under capitalism.

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    main vehicom 5 months ago 100%
    Anyone going to U-Michigan this fall and need a roomate?

    cross-posted from: https://lemmygrad.ml/post/4248944 > HI! I'm going to umich next fall and looking for a roomate to dorm with as a freshmen. Looking for male in COE. Leaning towards rooming on central but also willing to room on north. > > This is probably a shot in the dark but if anyone is also going there it'd be great to have a commie roomate.

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    comradeship
    Comradeship // Freechat vehicom 5 months ago 100%
    Anyone going to U-Michigan this fall and need a roomate?

    HI! I'm going to umich next fall and looking for a roomate to dorm with as a freshmen. Looking for male in COE. Leaning towards rooming on central but also willing to room on north. This is probably a shot in the dark but if anyone is also going there it'd be great to have a commie roomate.

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    neurodiverse vehicom 6 months ago 100%
    What to do when you realize you're sensory overloaded.

    Kinda what the title says. When like outside in public I know I like to wear my airpods w/ noise canceling and avoid loud spaces. What do you guys usually do when you notice you're like "it's all too much." Also what do you guys do when you're at home to relax and kinda reset after too much sensory stuff?

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    chapotraphouse chapotraphouse The subway is like a prison
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    6 months ago 100%

    to be fair the shanghai metro also has security(which imo kinda unnecessary but fair ig). but even then they have an actually nice metro

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  • comradeship Comradeship // Freechat I'm going to get to meet an original CPC member!
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    6 months ago 100%

    I have also had the chance to meet a pre-new china member of the cpc. He was my grandpa actually. Unfortunately he died a couple years ago and the last time I was back in china I didn’t know what a marx was…

    I wish you the best of experiences though.

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    China vehicom 7 months ago 100%
    Two Sessions Work Report www.gingerriver.com

    I didn't see anyone post this yet so i just wanted to make a post for it. I think most of the stuff is pretty standard here. Still going for a 5% growth rate in spite of all the headwinds, more jobs(yay), and a push for 高质量(high quality) growth.

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    Thoughts on ...? vehicom 7 months ago 100%
    Thoughts on this paper on generative justice my sister's professor wrote? I thought it was quite interesting... https://www.researchgate.net/publication/311811471_An_Introduction_to_Generative_Justice

    He's very clearly a anarchist and while I don't agree with his anarchist conclusions, i do find value in his arguments.

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