Israel and Palestine Politics Discussion
Wikipedia calls top Jewish civil rights org ‘unreliable’ on Israel-Palestine crisis
caveman 3 months ago • 100%
I'll change to use your link
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ADL faces Wikipedia ban over reliability concerns on Israel, antisemitism - Jewish Telegraphic Agency
caveman 3 months ago • 100%
No, that would be as ridiculous as your cynism
Israel and Palestine Politics Discussion
Israeli activists mobilize to protect aid trucks
caveman 3 months ago • 100%
Thanks for this.
Before this I was getting the impression that all Israelis are wicked.
Thanks for breaking my "trip"
caveman 3 months ago • 100%
caveman 3 months ago • 100%
This can get more views with an English description
caveman 3 months ago • 100%
Description:
"From Algeria to Paris, from Tel-Aviv to Hebron, Pinhas Attali has gone from being a militant in the Jewish nationalist movement in Paris, to the leader of a terrorist group in France, to an Israeli soldier, to a business director. Today, at 57 years old, he believes that he is leading a divine mission: the colonisation of the West Bank. He has now become a well known and respected figure. He lives near Hebron, in the Jewish colony of Kyriat Arba. Together with his wife Sarah, he raises his nine children. Pinhas Attali defines himself as a fighter. Since his adolescence he has been caught up in a spiral of violence, that of the twentieth century Jew. An historical figure, he is both a victim and an antagonist, a hero to some, a terrorist and an occupant to others; his journey offers us an unique perspective on Jewish radicalism and colonisation. His story is intertwined with that of Israel: missing peace, latent war, and outbreaks of violence."
caveman 3 months ago • 85%
I think this women is not an asshole as we see sometimes. Maybe she was just brainwashed by propaganda.
I hope that people being cheated by Israeli government like her can find the truth and open their eyes.
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Blinken claims that what separates US and Israeli regimes from Hamas is respect for international law and the laws of war. 🤡
caveman 3 months ago • 100%
Says the war criminal who doesn't recognized International Law (not their jurisdiction) and who supports a country doing obstruction or Justice by threatening ICC judges and prosecutor
caveman 3 months ago • 100%
The link to the full article:
https://columbialawreview.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/06/May-2024-1-Eghbariah.pdf
caveman 3 months ago • 100%
Haha this is truly amazing!
But did he condemn Hamas?
caveman 4 months ago • 100%
Is there one comparing the power of the bombs summed?
caveman 4 months ago • 100%
Explain?
World News
Biden: ‘every reason’ to believe Netanyahu is prolonging Gaza war for political gain
caveman 4 months ago • 54%
Biden pretending to care.
Like a husband who hits a wife again and again and always say "next time I'll be better, believe me".
And then he hits again
Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me
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Biden: ‘every reason’ to believe Netanyahu is prolonging Gaza war for political gain
caveman 4 months ago • 100%
Poetry slam, but no actions slam
caveman 4 months ago • 100%
Having a quick search, that's what I found (although it's nor exact):
caveman 4 months ago • 100%
Actually I once applied for a citizenship in another country. what the Country can do is to ask you to request your original country to delete your citizenship.
And many countries will accept it
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Really good documentary about the 1948 ethnic cleansing. Never gets old!!
caveman 4 months ago • 100%
This documentary is really good:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bwy-Rf15UIs
1948: Creation & Catastrophe (Full documentary)**
caveman 4 months ago • 100%
I have read a little about the Baltimore conference
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biltmore_Conference
Weird how since 100+ years some Jews talk about the area as if it was desertic and no human being was there.
Do they think the people Living there before are cockroaches or sand?
That's enraging
Maybe they have this tradition since milleniaz because in the Torah they just said "God gave them the land". Maybe their ethnic cleansing attitude is with them since thousands of years, no matter who is there.
What a racist inheritance!
caveman 4 months ago • 100%
I was really going to ask you for a book indication. Nice that you did it on the end.
If I could I would follow you, but Lemmy doesn't has this option :(
caveman 4 months ago • 100%
I read the book "The Jewish Paradox" from Nahum Goldman, the First president of the World Zionist Congress and also president of the World Jewish Congress.
He was one of the leaders who accepted the UN partition plan. He says that Israelis at the time wanted to kill him, because Israelis wanted all the land for them, no compromise.
But other leaders were convinced that they would never get a better offer, and also that having a State was a good platform to later take all of the land to them, for with a State you have some minimal stability and you can get an army and all other infra structure that they didn't have before.
If the Palestinians also took this into consideration they could, I guess, be far better now.
I recommend you to read this book because:
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Goldman is against the culture created by Ben Gurion of being enemies of Arabs, so he shows many of Israelis misdoings, and also because
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you can see some of the strategies they used to create their country.
The same strategy could be useful for Palestinians.
caveman 4 months ago • 100%
I have read that in other to get Israeli citizenship you have to cancel any previous citizenships. Source: https://www.gov.il/en/service/request_for_citizenship_of_a_person_who_holds_pemanent_residency
Israel might play this even harder and say say remainder of people (50% as you say) also should loose it in order to stay in Israel.
caveman 4 months ago • 100%
To be honest, even though I want Palestinians to her their stolen property back, due to the robbers (Israel) military might they will never get pre 1948 back.
They would be very lucky if they got pre 1967 borders. I read that Hamas and PA agreed on that.
Better ask Palestinians on social network with what they would agree
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Nikki Haley writes ‘Finish Them!’ on Israeli bomb bound for Gaza
caveman 4 months ago • 100%
caveman 4 months ago • 100%
I don't think it's durable. As long as people kicked out from their properties since 1948 cannot return and Israel keels stealing more and more land there will be no peace.
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Nikki Haley writes ‘Finish Them!’ on Israeli bomb bound for Gaza
caveman 4 months ago • 100%
I was not aware this was a duplicate
Palestine
The Ugly History of Dual-Loyalty Charges - Ilhan Omar recently deployed an accusation that’s been used against religious minorities for years.
caveman 4 months ago • 100%
I liked this article because it's the First time I get to know the concept of "dual loyality", but your comment make it even better!!
Thanks.
I'd Lemmy allowed I would click to follow you :)
caveman 4 months ago • 100%
My app doesnt allow me a newline, but I've added a dash
caveman 4 months ago • 100%
Somehow US is a hotbed for religious fanatism.
Maybe it has to do with their history, as they left England due to religous reasons, than you have a whole inheritance tree of people who are still on the same mindset of regious war.
Read about the "Bible belt", which are states with most religious activism.
Interesting article, showing how treating Muslims as non-loyal to a country is the same bullshit already done against Catholics, Jews and other religions in USA.
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Nikki Haley writes ‘Finish Them!’ on Israeli bomb bound for Gaza
caveman 4 months ago • 93%
Different sources gives different details that other source may have hidden in order to fit their agenda
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Nikki Haley writes ‘Finish Them!’ on Israeli bomb bound for Gaza
caveman 4 months ago • 93%
That's not what the Republican Jesus says
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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/16260179 > Nikki Haley writes ‘Finish Them!’ on Israeli bomb bound for Gaza
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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/16260179 > Nikki Haley writes ‘Finish Them!’ on Israeli bomb bound for Gaza
caveman 4 months ago • 100%
US war crimes is not ICC jurisdiction, but Palestinian humans is surely US jurisdiction, thus the signed bomb. /s
caveman 4 months ago • 100%
This american defends Israel to occupy Gaza to "destroy Hamas" and insert PA rule. How are they expecting to insert a non-elected government there and later claim to be "fighting for democracy"?
caveman 4 months ago • 100%
Do you have a source for this info?
caveman 4 months ago • 100%
I see today Erdogan making a speech saying he will join.
I dont believe him, because he has never done anything before, and Arab politicians usually promises stuff to Palestinians and never deliver. I also travelled to Turkey once and thr amount of people there badmouthing Palestinians shocked me.
For me, I only respect South Africa. They did something useful about it.
All the others just want to surf on the waves made by South Africa
caveman 4 months ago • 100%
What does "join" mean? Cheerleading?
That won't help the judges decide anything, as this is a matter of law.
Maybe they mean collecting proof or helping to pay lawyers?
caveman 4 months ago • 100%
My impression now is that they are just a tool to get rid of laws and let corporations take everything, destroying the left (I think they damage more the left than the right), and later the republicans will benefit from it.
caveman 4 months ago • 100%
If this was an Israeli flag he would have been called "freedom and peace supporter"
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Some excerpt: According to accounts shared with ICC officials, he is alleged to have told her: “You should help us and let us take care of you. You don’t want to be getting into things that could compromise your security or that of your family.” One individual briefed on Cohen’s activities said he had used “despicable tactics” against Bensouda as part of an ultimately unsuccessful effort to intimidate and influence her. They likened his behaviour to “stalking”. The Mossad also took a keen interest in Bensouda’s family members and obtained transcripts of secret recordings of her husband, according to two sources with direct knowledge of the situation. Israeli officials then attempted to use the material to discredit the prosecutor.
libertarianinstitute.org
I wonder how this famous libertarian was against Israel for good reasons, and now most of libertarian claim to be against Palestinians.
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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/15110900 > What would ICC arrest warrants against Benjamin Netanyahu mean for Israel? | Inside Story
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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/15110900 > What would ICC arrest warrants against Benjamin Netanyahu mean for Israel? | Inside Story
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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/15110900 > What would ICC arrest warrants against Benjamin Netanyahu mean for Israel? | Inside Story
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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/15110900 > What would ICC arrest warrants against Benjamin Netanyahu mean for Israel? | Inside Story
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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/15110900 > What would ICC arrest warrants against Benjamin Netanyahu mean for Israel? | Inside Story
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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/15110900 > What would ICC arrest warrants against Benjamin Netanyahu mean for Israel? | Inside Story
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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/15110900 > What would ICC arrest warrants against Benjamin Netanyahu mean for Israel? | Inside Story
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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/15110900 > What would ICC arrest warrants against Benjamin Netanyahu mean for Israel? | Inside Story
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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/15063426 > US lawmakers threaten retaliation against UN court over potential Israel arrest warrants > > Other related news: > https://www.timesofisrael.com/israel-working-to-block-feared-icc-arrest-warrants-against-pm-others-over-gaza-war/ > > https://www.timesofisrael.com/report-several-nations-urging-icc-not-to-issue-arrest-warrants-for-israelis/
cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/15063426 > US lawmakers threaten retaliation against UN court over potential Israel arrest warrants > > Other related news: > https://www.timesofisrael.com/israel-working-to-block-feared-icc-arrest-warrants-against-pm-others-over-gaza-war/ > > https://www.timesofisrael.com/report-several-nations-urging-icc-not-to-issue-arrest-warrants-for-israelis/
cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/15063426 > US lawmakers threaten retaliation against UN court over potential Israel arrest warrants > > Other related news: > https://www.timesofisrael.com/israel-working-to-block-feared-icc-arrest-warrants-against-pm-others-over-gaza-war/ > > https://www.timesofisrael.com/report-several-nations-urging-icc-not-to-issue-arrest-warrants-for-israelis/
cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/15063426 > US lawmakers threaten retaliation against UN court over potential Israel arrest warrants > > Other related news: > https://www.timesofisrael.com/israel-working-to-block-feared-icc-arrest-warrants-against-pm-others-over-gaza-war/ > > https://www.timesofisrael.com/report-several-nations-urging-icc-not-to-issue-arrest-warrants-for-israelis/
cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/15063426 > US lawmakers threaten retaliation against UN court over potential Israel arrest warrants > > Other related news: > https://www.timesofisrael.com/israel-working-to-block-feared-icc-arrest-warrants-against-pm-others-over-gaza-war/ > > https://www.timesofisrael.com/report-several-nations-urging-icc-not-to-issue-arrest-warrants-for-israelis/
cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/15063426 > US lawmakers threaten retaliation against UN court over potential Israel arrest warrants > > Other related news: > https://www.timesofisrael.com/israel-working-to-block-feared-icc-arrest-warrants-against-pm-others-over-gaza-war/ > > https://www.timesofisrael.com/report-several-nations-urging-icc-not-to-issue-arrest-warrants-for-israelis/
Other related news: https://www.timesofisrael.com/israel-working-to-block-feared-icc-arrest-warrants-against-pm-others-over-gaza-war/ https://www.timesofisrael.com/report-several-nations-urging-icc-not-to-issue-arrest-warrants-for-israelis/
See the PDF for the full letter. Here is an excerpt: *The native populations, civilised or uncivilised, have always stubbornly resisted the colonists, irrespective of whether they were civilised or savage. And it made no difference whatever whether the colonists behaved decently or not. The companions of Cortez and Pizzaro or (as some people will remind us) our own ancestors under Joshua Ben Nun, behaved like brigands; but the Pilgrim Fathers, the first real pioneers of North America, were people of the highest morality, who did not want to do harm to anyone, least of all to the Red Indians, and they honestly believed that there was room enough in the prairies both for the Paleface and the Redskin. Yet the native population fought with the same ferocity against the good colonists as against the bad. Every native population, civilised or not, regards its lands as its national home, of which it is the sole master, and it wants to retain that mastery always; it will refuse to admit not only new masters but, even new partners or collaborators. Arabs Not Fools This is equally true of the Arabs. Our Peace-mongers are trying to persuade us that the Arabs are either fools, whom we can deceive by masking our real aims, or that they are corrupt and can be bribed to abandon to us their claim to priority in Palestine , in return for cultural and economic advantages. I repudiate this conception of the Palestinian Arabs. Culturally they are five hundred years behind us, they have neither our endurance nor our determination; but they are just as good psychologists as we are, and their minds have been sharpened like ours by centuries of fine-spun logomachy. We may tell them whatever we like about the innocence of our aims, watering them down and sweetening them with honeyed words to make them palatable, but they know what we want, as well as we know what they do not want. They feel at least the same instinctive jealous love of Palestine, as the old Aztecs felt for ancient Mexico , and their Sioux for their rolling Prairies.*
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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/14968230 > How to Make a Genocide Disappear > > The Times’ coverage of Israel’s most recent war on Gaza may be its darkest hour. Here, we break it down in detail.
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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/14968230 > How to Make a Genocide Disappear > > The Times’ coverage of Israel’s most recent war on Gaza may be its darkest hour. Here, we break it down in detail.
