From [the meeting minutes](https://github.com/dotnet/csharplang/blob/main/meetings/2024/LDM-2024-07-24.md): >First up today, the discriminated unions working group presented the proposal they've been working on for a while to the broader LDM. This was a broad overview session, rather than a deep dive into nitty-gritty questions; there are still plenty of little details that will need to be filled in, but we're cautiously optimistic about this proposal and moving forward with it. There was some concern about some of the ternary behavior, but we can dig more into that as we bring this proposal back for detailed follow ups in the future.
Spyros 10 months ago • 100%
Some talks from yesterday have not yet been uploaded as separate videos, but they will probably be added in the playlist soon.
The yearly Stephen Toub blog post we were waiting for is finally here
Spyros 1 year ago • 100%
Not the Stephen Toub blog post I was waiting for, but I have no complaints.
(Stephen Toub writes the yearly "Performance improvements in .NET x" post, always before the GA release in November)
Spyros 1 year ago • 100%
I have started using Avalonia, and even though I am still learning, I am very satisfied with it. There are growing pains obviously, but as you said, I have no confidence in Microsoft UI frameworks.
Spyros 1 year ago • 83%
It's a great text editor, yes. An IDE though, it is not. It gets close with various addons, but it's still not the same experience.
Spyros 1 year ago • 100%
MonoDevelop died for this.
(Disclaimer: I haven't used MonoDevelop to know its quality, I'm just tempted by the idea of a free cross-platform .NET IDE. Microsoft took MonoDevelop, forked it into VS for Mac, left the former stagnate, and now is killing its closed-source descendant.)
This is not to be confused with the Avalonia UI framework which remains free and open source. XPF is a new project by the same team that allows existing WPF apps to be cross-platform (so enterprises can take their existing Windows-only apps and run them on MacOS, Linux and maybe WebAssembly). It's in early stages so I don't know how well it works.
Tangentially related to the Linux ecosystem, since it's a major software that's used by many of the platform's users
Spyros 1 year ago • 100%
Oh boy, now I need to find a new excuse to procrastinate on the project I want to start using Avalonia.
Spyros 1 year ago • 100%
Well, for starters, WinUI 3 is Windows only (correct me if I'm wrong), while Avalonia supports Windows, MacOS, Linux, Android, iOS and WebAssembly.
The cross-platform solution that Microsoft advocates for is MAUI, which doesn't support Linux. And it uses native controls, meaning you may encounter platform-specific bugs, while Avalonia renders the controls the same way everywhere using Skia (same approach with Flutter).
Spyros 1 year ago • 100%
Please be civil towards other users. Language on the internet can be misrepresented resulting in hostility in an otherwise technical discussion. This goes to everyone involved, I'm just replying in this specific comment.
Spyros 1 year ago • 100%
Related: check out this thread (at /c/dotnet) for opinions on Avalonia: https://programming.dev/post/38851
Spyros 1 year ago • 100%
There doesn't seem to be consensus for this move, things stay as they are.
Spyros 1 year ago • 100%
I agree with you, although the rest of the list is pretty good.
Spyros 1 year ago • 100%
Correct me if I 'm wrong, but I think it's still the same situation since January 2020: the long-term-supported (LTS) Qt releases are available to commercial licensees only and KDE supports collections of patches for them. Which is a hassle for sure. But nothing has changed because a fork of Qt (worst case scenario) would demand massive manpower from KDE.
And the KDE Free Qt Foundation exists, so the Qt Company can't close down the framework.
The Foundation has license agreements with The Qt Company, Digia and Nokia. The agreements ensure that the Qt will continue to be available as Free Software. Should The Qt Company discontinue the development of the Qt Free Edition under the required licenses, then the Foundation has the right to release Qt under a BSD-style license or under other open source licenses. The agreements stay valid in case of a buy-out, a merger or bankruptcy.
I started with TeXworks (+ XeTeX, which both happen to have been created by Jonathan Kew) and I found no reason to change since then. The only slight drawback is that autocomplete support exists but is rudimentary, however it doesn't bother me that much. Which editor do you prefer?
Spyros 1 year ago • 100%
I have no experience with it, but I noticed there is no community for Julia
(both url and display name). The locked down subreddit had almost 23,000 subscribers (if you build it, they will come ;) ).
Spyros 1 year ago • 100%
My bad, the link I sent was not about NativeAOT, just bundling all the dependencies together (also, it's 4 years old). After a quick search, here's a recent SO question that mentions that you can build .exe files
As for the filesize... please recheck the post under which we are commenting. :D
Spyros 1 year ago • 100%
Does it effectively output a single binary?
Yes, that's one of the points of NativeAOT, a self-contained single binary, exactly as Go does it.
Does it create some kind of clusterf*k and awkward packaging formats like other MS solutions such as UWP?
No, you can create .exe files.
Will it actually be deployable to a random fresh install of Debian 12 or Windows 10?
Yes, NativeAOT supports Windows, Linux and MacOS, x64 and Arm64.
What about compatibility with older systems?
Not sure about that, I suppose it depends on the targets each .NET version support. For example, .NET 8 will drop RHEL 7 and only RHEL 8 and later.
And to play devil's advocate: this won't work for all existing .NET applications. If you use reflection (which is AOT unfriendly), chances are that you will have to rework a ton of stuff in order to get to a point where NativeAOT works. There's a middle solution though, called ReadyToRun, which has some advantages compared to running fully with the JIT compiler.
Spyros 1 year ago • 100%
does lemmy have pinned posts?
Yes, we can add one if needed. I created a poll in this thread: https://programming.dev/post/71137
Btw, I just found out how to add a user as mod to a community, there is a button between each post / comment that is visible to moderators of that community. So, if you post to /c/dotnet, I can make you a mod there.
Spyros 1 year ago • 50%
HARD REDIRECT: New submissions are not allowed in this community, ask the users to post at /c/dotnet
Spyros 1 year ago • 50%
SOFT REDIRECT: Submissions still allowed, but a message is shown on the sidebar, asking users to post to /c/dotnet, unless their content is not suited there.
Spyros 1 year ago • 83%
LEAVE AS IT IS: Two separate communities, no merging
There is no polling functionality on Lemmy, so please upvote the comment that you mostly agree with.
Spyros 1 year ago • 100%
Right now obviously the content feed and the users contributing are low enough so they could be merged effectively.
In case the Fediverse and this instance grow rapidly though, I think that 2 communities would be more beneficial: having a more active community about C#, with questions about the language, its syntax, each new feature introduced etc, while the .NET community would undoubtly see less content and focus more on the underlying framework, the toolchain, language-agnostic discussions... In my experience, this is how it worked on the subreddits of the same names.
Do you want to have a banner added on the sidebar, redirecting to /c/dotnet until we grow larger? Does Lemmy have a polling functionality (to ask the user opinions)? I couldn't find anything.
Spyros 1 year ago • 100%
I have no problem with adding more mods, but unless I missed something I can't find any setting to do so. Except for the posts, all I can customize are the logo / banner images and the sidebar. Maybe I'm missing something or this can only be done by admins for the time being.
Spyros 1 year ago • 100%
Thanks, I posted there.
Spyros 1 year ago • 100%
Can we have one for LaTeX
(both url and display name)? Thanks!
Spyros 1 year ago • 100%
Thanks, I can help moderating it.
Spyros 1 year ago • 100%
Thanks, I'll do my best!
Spyros 1 year ago • 100%
Spyros 1 year ago • 100%
I am working primarily with .NET (c/dotnet
) and C# (c/csharp
). Although I have limited time, I can try helping moderate the two communities for the time being.
What are your opinions about Avalonia? It runs on Windows, Mac, Linux, Android, iOS and WebAssembly, with the mobile platforms being in a more immature state as support was added recently. MAUI is the continuation of Xamarin.Forms, while Avalonia is the spiritual successor to WPF, albeit open-source and cross-platform. MAUI uses platform-native controls (which means the same control may appear or behave differently between operating systems), while Avalonia builds everything with Skia, so it renders the same in every platform. I think of it as the .NET alternative to Flutter, though with a more desktop-centric focus, instead of being mobile-first. I have not used it yet but it seems the most promising .NET UI framework and I'm hoping to build a personal project in the following months. The [first Release Candidate of Avalonia UI v11](https://github.com/AvaloniaUI/Avalonia/discussions/11593), which stabilises the API, was released two weeks ago.
Spyros 1 year ago • 100%
Can we have commandline
(both url and display name)? In order to share recommendations & news about software that runs on the terminal, without a UI.
>After 1 year, 9 months, and 28 days of development, the Debian project is proud to present its new stable version 12 (code name “bookworm”). > >“bookworm” will be supported for the next 5 years thanks to the combined work of the Debian Security team and the Debian Long Term Support team.